Frisco River Division - Cape Girardeau Southwestern

Discussion in 'Divisions' started by klrwhizkid, Apr 16, 2009.

  1. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Okay, here is my next question. What is the cost per turnout compared to an Atlas, Peco, Micro Eng., etc. If cost is to the advantage of savings then that is a good thing. If not, then I would rather lean to the side of reliability.
    Sometimes I have doubted myself on this issue with turnouts.
     
  2. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Looks like you are doing a great job Keith, I am very excited for you. I know you been wanting this for a long time. I am glad to see you "Get IT Going" I can see the soldered on ties, but cannot see any spikes in the other ties.
     
  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    If you don't count the cost of the jigs, and tools, then each turnout comes out at about $11.00 each. But cost is not the main deciding factor; in the end you have a turnout that cars glide through and are electrically superior. Incidentally, I spent $421 on all the tools and enough rail, pc ties and wood ties to build 15 Number 4.5 turnouts initially, but knowing that I would probably build around 40 to 50 of them. Also, I have access to jigs and tools for other sizes in the local community of modelers. I am borrowing Number 6 jig and tools from my friend Stephen Priest and have already built a couple of those.

    There are no spikes, I am using Pliobond contact cement to attach the rails to the wood ties per FastTracks prescribed method. It holds very well. I will probably spike some, but not all, following in Louis Houck's footsteps, especially on the MoP spur since that was all originally the Cape Girardeau Northern, a Houck line.
     
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  4. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    If you don't count the cost of the jigs ( which help with consistency, they aren't absolutely required ) For an n-scale #8 turnout, it takes about 48" of rail and half a dozen PCB ties, plus,the wood ties for filler. If you don't use the quick sticks and copperhead ties, total cost is in the $3-4 range.

    The copperhead ties and quick sticks save time, but they add about $7 to the cost.

    $11 is still less than any commercial turnouts.

    Paul
     
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  5. RogerRT

    RogerRT Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    No spikes or fish plates, yeap that's a Houck line....Roger
     
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  6. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Exactly why I had to modify flex track to appear more rickety on the Zalma Branch. Wish I had handlaid the track.
    Keep the photos coming, Keith.
     
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  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Beginning Sept 12, I will start having regular, weekly Wednesday work sessions on my layout. I will be enlisting the aid of the vast reserves of layout building manpower here in KC, so it will go pretty fast. I will post updates on this layout thread. The area of first bench work construction will be the Cape Girardeau riverfront up to Sloan's Creek and then Cape Rock and the MoP spur into western Cape (background right on first picture).
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  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Sounds like Louis Houck!
     
  9. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I appreciate the homage to a great man. I somewhat fit the profile but slightly better financed...
     
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  10. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    No quick and shoddy trackwork on your layout! I’ve read about Houck passenger trains making folks get off and walk across some of the bridges. That’s scary!
     
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  11. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Today, big work session. Model railroading friends Mike Borkon and Don Ball came to the house for lunch of homemade pasta sauce, spaghetti and mostaccioli, and Parmesan/garlic bread before helping me get bench work on a roll. Late in the afternoon, Don and Mike had to leave. Stephen Priest and Rick McClellan came by for a pasta dinner and then worked until about 8:30.
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  12. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith, I very much appreciate the cleanliness and orderliness of the layout room pre-benchwork. It's something I should have done before I started building, and something I hope to remedy with my new go-around.

    This Swampeast Missourian is really looking forward to seeing this layout plan come to life.

    Nice to see that Rick's hard at work. Tell him we missing seeing his peanut butter avatar.
     
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  13. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Looking good. While I on the other hand think it looks too sterile. What fun is it not having to move the same stuff a dozen or so time while building.
     
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  14. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Oh, what you don't see...
     
  15. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    I see no peanut butter any where!!
     
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  16. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Yep, where is the Butter.
     
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  17. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Rick must have finished that huge jar of Peter Pan creamy Caroline and I gave him .... but that was a few years ago!

    Ken
     
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