Workshop Wednesday

Discussion in 'General' started by yardmaster, Nov 15, 2017.

  1. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Great stuff every one this Wednesday!! Don, tell us how you really feel about Dong Jin LOL.
    I made some progress in the last couple days on the drop deck SL-SF 3900, used decals from many different sources, Model Masters Insignia Yellow, some gloss coat before and after the decals were added then a dullcoat was applied. Gonna let this sit for a few days before weathering.
    Another post for the load :)
    Thanks for looking!
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  2. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    The load for SL-SF 3900 was painted a random grey, and a generous amount of decals applied, maybe a bit too many, but I like it them, kinda breaks it up a bit, and adds to the diversity of colors.
    Thanks again for looking!
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2019
  3. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Wow! That’s looking really nice. Nice paint jobs and decal work.
  4. Looks great Tom!!! Glad to see it getting close after all you put into this. The car sure looks good in the pics.
  5. Don, in my diesel world the old Trains Incorporated U25s are the same way. I have tried to rescue a mutt of theirs a couple and it is impossible. The problem with them is being so flimsy they just fall apart handling them. They make you appreciate the old Alco brass offerings, which is saying something!
    I like to save old brass because it’s a dying model world. I loved to see my dads brass stuff or hobby shop brass as a kid. But it isn’t always worth the heartbreak and headache.
  6. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    It's better than just a "How Do You Do?" Great Look !
  7. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Supporter Supporter

    Tom - I know you have a lot of time,and probably money too, invested in that model ... but I have to say that -- YOU HAVE MADE AN AWESOME LOOKING FLAT CAR!
    Just blows my mind away. (well, what's left of it)
  8. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Guys for all the welcomed comments! Sherrel you are touched, my friend.:D:D
  9. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    I think I'm done with the 185 except for maybe a touch up here or there. I will never do another one. I did one when they first came out and I guess I forgot the pain and agony of it. I've added as much weight as there is room in there and it should pull 2-3 Walthers plastic HW cars. If I had some "Bullfrog Snot", I would put it on the insulated drivers to give it some tractive effort. Motor was shot, gearbox was junk, cylinders looked like something from Six Flags and tender trucks were poor copies of Cal Scale and wouldn't even roll. The thing was a bucket of junk. Back in the day, someone should have dropped Dong Jin into N. Korea.
    I spent more time trying to rescue this thing than anything I've done in a long time.
    I've drilled out the headlight and smokebox front for a headlight bulb. The one I did years ago was done the same way and I put a Digitrax DCC decoder in it. Lettering is Dulux Gold. It would be a job to do DCC/sound.

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  10. Your comments on Dong Jin are great Don! It may have been a pain but looks good now. Nice job.
  11. geep07

    geep07 Member

    On the depressed center flat car, what was the objective on why the brake stem rod was higher on the B end and short on the A end ?
  12. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    As I remember it, the brake staffs were collapsible, so they could be lowered and out of the way for any load that had overhang. I don't remember how they were engaged for ratcheting, though.

  13. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Andre it's a case where a bigger hammer works best to lower the staff. They engaged by flipping the Dog over to catch the ratchet . Back in the day, the brake staff's were solid, but so many were bent, they made them collapsible. Once they are bent you can't use them.
  14. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Yep, They were iffy at best, and we were not encouraged to use them, to the point where we were told to set out another car with good hand brakes, to hold these old stem winders in place. If you want a good hand brake on these type brakes you need a brake club to apply and release it, I dont know of any trainmen carrying brake clubs any more, or they would tell us to skate the car. One of the issues is that the chain is winding over itself at the bottom of the staff, and as any of you have wound a chain over itself you know it is subject to binding, popping and carrying on, just not a good situation when your leaning over the brake to apply it. Like Andre and William said, they were almost always bent and just were where they were unless you have a carman with a big hammer.


    A drawing of same.

    A modern version, note the gear reduction to apply more tension
  15. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Hi John,
    Really no reason for one over the other to be taller or in the up position, other than what is written in the above post. The one thing I forgot to do is cut the staff off under that taller winder staff, Those buggers are always bent.
    We have several different hand brakes available for boxcars flat cars gondolas, but painfully few for flat cars, especially the staff type brakes.
  16. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Almost forgot "Skates" seen several of those lift the car, the Skate goes shooting out.
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  17. Not Wednesday or a train for that matter but I finished up my 48 Divco project. Just waiting on some photoetched wiper arms to arrive.
  18. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Man you are on it, with the weathering. Seen a few vehicles that looked similar, generally full of Hippies. Not sure what a Divco is, but you could really pack in the long hair's.
  19. They were mainly milk delivery trucks Bill. But hippy wagon is pretty believable too. HA
  20. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Supporter

    Progress on several small projects this week, including this one: An AMB caboose for the Frisco that has been sitting in my to-do drawer for more than a year. Needs some end rails, ladders, decals and couplers. Unfortunately I have lost the ladder detail parts and need to make from strip wood. A definite delay in finishing up.

    Also, anyone put a brake detail kit on one of these that can show me the underside? Thanks.

    Happy Wednesday All,

    -Bob T.

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