Hi Tom, Thanks for the Texas Special information. Do you have any photos? I am also interested loco and car names, road numbers, stock numbers and if each are Frisco or MKT. Would like to log this data to the Manufactured Releases matrix. Your help is Greatly Appreciated!!! Thank You, Joe
My sets are packed away at the moment, but I do have the car names and numbers: --The baggage dorm impersonating an RPO doesn't have a name or number. --Ditto the dome car. --The Observation is MKT 1400, Stephen F. Austin. --One coach is SLSF 1250, Olivette. --Last two coaches are MKT 1201, David G. Burnett and MKT 1202 J. Pinckney Henderson. The whole trainset only superficially represents the Texas Special. I'm hoping someday Kato will release a "believeable" Texas Special train--But I'm not holding my breath... Tom PS Edit: I hope your list of N scale releases doesn't depend on the Frisco models to be particularly accurate. There have been some pretty sorry N scale "Frisco" models in past years.
Thanks Tom, this just what I needed to know!!! If the list depended on accurate models there would not be a list. Most manufacturers machine their molds for a particular model car type and then stamp several different road names on the side. Would go out of bussiness if they made a mold for each road. At least the names and road numbers are right. The Manufactured Releases list, started about eight years ago, is my attempt to make an accurate catalog of what has been factory produced. This gives modelers a starting point when purchasing equipment. I try to keep custom decaled items out. We are about to break the 300 items mark. Do have a few other questions. Are the locos Frisco 2000 & 2003 with their racehorse names on the side or MKT 101-A & xxx? Are the baggage and dome cars Frisco or MKT? What would be the ballpark price for a complete set? Please post photos whenever you can! Tom, Thank You for your help!!! Joe
They're "fantasy" M-K-T E-8's. They're closest to one of the versions of the Katy E-8's delivered in 1950. --But to represent the Katy E-8's, they should have Katy heralds on the nose and below the cab windows (like #135), Instead of the star on the nose and both Katy and Frisco heralds below the windows (Like #101). And they shouldn't have "The Texas Special" script lettering on the sides or nose (Only the original E-7's had that). The Con-Cor engines are"most" like M-K-T #135, but are lettered like #101. Wrong for both! To top all that, the label on the "presentation" box said: "Wabash-Katy Texas Special!!" Classic Con-Cor! Tom PS Edit: The Con-Cor "Texas Special" E-8's don't have any numbers.
Thank You Tom [TAG1014] for your help with the Texas Special Set. Really surprised to see Atlas cars in a ConCor release and sad there is only one Frisco car in the entire set. Below is a new posting of the Manufactured Releases list. This list will show a new format for Passenger equipment. It is listed in sets that have been released. No other major changes have been made. Several new releases are due anytime between now and next month though. Joe
Joe--In the 1980's, Con-Cor was importing the Rivarossi cars (That had been Atlas). I believe Con-Cor still imports those cars, or maybe they have the dies. They still sell sets of the corrugated cars. The E-8's, I believe had Kato mechanisms, but they were old Rivarossi shells (Also once imported by Atlas). The dome car was a Con-Cor. The observation was a Con-Cor "dome-observation," but it had a non-dome roof. I don't understand why Con-Cor didn't just go ahead and use the matching fluted observation?? All the "other" cars: baggage dorm and coaches were the Rivarossi fluted side cars, actually early Rock Island prototypes. Con-Cor still sells these fluted (corrugated) cars in four, five and six car sets, painted and lettered with every imaginable paint scheme. Tom
Re: Manufactured N Scale Releases--Atlas GP-7's Atlas has opened reservations for their N scale SLSF GP-7's to be released this fall. Black and yellow scheme, road numbers 500 and 502. Tom
Re: Manufactured N Scale Releases--Atlas GP-7's Here are some more specifics on Tom's announcement. New N Scale Atlas Phase 1 GP7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Atlas has just announced production of an N scale Phase 1 GP7 in the B&Y paint scheme in two road #'s. The locomotive will have an MSRP of $109.95 for the standard version and $144.95 for the decoder equipped version. The road #'s offered will be the same as in the last HO offering, that being #500 and #502. Here are the specifics: Features: Scale Speed™ motor Powered low friction drive Blackened metal wheels Dual brass flywheels Directional lighting Golden-white LEDs AccuMate® couplers The stock #'s are as follows: #500 Standard Version: 48274 #500 Decoder Equipped: 50846 #502 Standard Version: 48275 #502 Decoder Equipped: 50847 Below is a link to a photo of the model: http://www.atlasrr.com/Images/NLocomotives/ngp79/0310/8357TQ.jpg If anyone so chooses, Atlas is also offering an undecorated version of the model and here is the stock #: Undecorated w/o Dynamics Phase 1: Standard Version: 48000 It just keeps getting better! __________________
Next time I'm gone for a weekend, will take my laptop with me. You guys just made my day!!! Thanks for the info. Joe
Please take special note of a post that I put up under the Maintenance of Way category. I personally consider it a great opportunity. Thanks!
Atlas released their N scale gondolas with a canister load. What type of canister are these and what do they carry? Have been making car cards and waybills but do not know how to route the canisters. Your help will be Greatly Appreciated!!! Joe
Cement is certainly one of the primary materials they would have been used for. Did a shipper on the Frisco ever use them? Suspect you'd have to ask under another title to get the right people to answer. Being an earlier Atlas car, one can't depend on their actuality. If I still have one of them, I'd have to pry the containers out and weather severely to justify a short gon like that in 1980.
Prior to bulk hoppers which were reliably sealed from the weather, I think much of the cement was shipped in bags. Ken
According to my dad, before the advent of covered cement hoppers, the only ways cement left the Marquette Cement plant in Cape Girardeau, Mo was in bulk by barge to two different Marquette river terminals (St Louis and Memphis) or in bags stacked five high on pallets in boxcars. Marquette had their own converted boxcar/covered hoppers that move the bulk cement from the plant to the river terminal at the plant for dumping into covered barges which were owned by Marquette Cement. The river terminals in St Louis and Memphis then transferred the cement to trucks for delivery to businesses that used mass quantities of cement.
Great question. Since these were released in a number of road names it's entirely possible that no such thing ever existed on the Frisco. Charlie