Frisco #151 Project

Discussion in 'Steam Locomotives' started by Jim James, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Jim,

    Working on scaling out the picture for you. Will have information up shortly. Do you know if that engine in your original post is the original delivery, or has it been modified/updated? My gut says the latter, not the former. I certainly don't think that is the original tender.
     
  2. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I'm not sure. Probably updated. Thanks for any help.
     
  3. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Right now, everything seems to be on a 1/8" to the foot scale. But, I need to double check some things. Jury is still out. I'll edit the finals I get and post them here in bold to keep the thread count down in the post.
     
  4. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks for going through all this trouble for me. I do appreciate it, Manny.
     
  5. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Hey Jim,

    No problems. I've taken the picture and the builders measurement photo and sent them to my friend Tony to help scale out. Everything I point to says 1/8" to the foot. However, some oddities, like the rail head to the top of the stack come up with a 5' difference. I'll post up what I find as soon as I get the info back.

    Manny
     
  6. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Lucky me! The cab sides popped off fairly easily and with a little sanding the remaining structure is perfectly fine. All I have to do is rebuild the sides. I'll make sure the proportions are better before I glue them on this time. This rebuilding has also allowed me to correct another descrepency at the rear. All things happen for a reason.
    I also made a hobby shop trip this afternoon so I have lots of goodies to mess with including a headlight, bell, marker lamps with jewels a new Walthers catalogue, styrene sheets, brass, tools and many other tid bits. A well spent $70!
     
  7. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Never mind:(. After looking at the photo showing both the 151 and her sister with men standing near the cab I realize that the cab sides are about 6'x6' square give or take. This means more rebuilding than I thought. No worries though.
     
  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    This is my final version. The sides are 6' long and 5' high and they are staying that way. This gave it almost a foot more height and the prototype photo shows the bottom edge of the window glass exactly halfway between the top and bottom of the cab or in other words half way up the side. It definitely looks more in proportion than it used to. I guess I'm modeling her "in the spirit" so to say. Now I've got to round up some appropriate domes and a pilot.
     

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  9. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Jim,

    I may have some Kemtron domes that will work for you.
     
  10. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim, the revised cab looks right by my eyes...well done!

    What thickness styrene did you use? I've tried .010" which takes rivets from a pounce wheel quite nicely, but it's pretty fragile. I might have to go up to .020" for the cab sides and .010" for the roof.

    Best Regards,
     
  11. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks, Chris. Close enough is good for me. I'm just waiting on finding a dome set and a stack then it's off to races. I would even use a Roundhouse 4-4-0 but that's on hold right now:)
     
  12. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Jim,

    There are appropriate Kemtron domes on eBay right now...
     
  13. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I can't find them. I only see one 5x-band dome and it's only one dome. Direct me to what you found so I can buy those suckers. Maybe a link to the page they're on?
     
  14. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    That is the sand dome that you need. Let me find the steam dome for you. I was gonna go after that sand dome, but you can go for it. I have an order going into Precision Scale anyways. If you want to piggyback, let me know.
     
  15. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Manny, if you can get me a set of domes I will pay you dearly. I don't have a PayPal or e bay account. I'll send more money and dirt:)
     
  16. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    No worries Jim. I will get you a set. I have to order some. Do you need Frisco headlight brackets for the coonskin? Don't worry 'bout the money. I need dirt!!!
     
  17. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks! And yes I need the coonskin. I've used the two brackets I have already. They were the black plastic ones. Thanks for all your help!
     
  18. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    No problem. Do you want plastic or brass? I usually get the brass. Much nicer, but your choice.
     
  19. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Brass it is. Nice and solid.
     
  20. John Sanders

    John Sanders Member

    Jim, Attached is a little bit clearer version of your photo. The second image is the information on the back. Some of the notes are edited, possibly by John Mann. You mentioned the tender needing to be raised. It appears the Frisco added to the bottom of the tank to increase capacity. Other railroads did the same thing including the PRR. I am very interested in the large generator. It is possible the large diameter turbine was needed to compensate for lower boiler pressures on these antique engines. It is also possible the turbine design wasn't very efficient. It will be interesting to see if a casting is available for this unique generator. The headlight is certainly a common style on this era Frisco power. It appears to be a modified version of the Cal-Scale arc headlight. This is a very interesting project!
    John Sanders
     

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