Flat Car Loads

Discussion in 'General' started by Rick McClellan, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    Here in KC a lot of modelers like open loads, especially flat car loads. The challenge is to make them look believeable. It's pretty easy to glue a load on but it never really looks right.

    I have some retired railroad friends who have coached me on the chocking and tie-down requirements for open loads so I thought I would show you the results.

    The photo shows a regular Proto 2000 M&StL 50' flat with a load of Farmall tractors. I made the chocks out of scale 2x8 lumber and the cable tie-downs are a single strand of wire from some speaker cable. It is not 100% accurate but pretty close. I have another car with the exact same reporting marks that I will run empty and will put a few damaged chocks on it and some cabling attached to the stake pockets. The tractors are the Life-Like tractors that are still available.

    What kind of open loads do you run on your railroad?

    Frisco Faster Freight!

    Rick
     

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  2. Here's a July 1908 photograph of some steam-powered farm equipment on SL&SF flatcar 93924 at the Aldrich, Mo. team track. The wheel chocks are visible, even if this second-generation copy is not exactly crystal clear.
     

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  3. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Brad - Neat, neat pic! Thanks for posting.

    What do you think the car number is - SLSF 93924? Can you see the number any better on the original print?

    Ken
     
  4. Unfortunately, I don't have anything close to an original print. The copy I scanned is a photocopy taken from a booklet found in a local historical society. The caption reads:

    Postcard written 7-1-1908 to: newlywed Mrs. Clara Lawrence. "Will Eastridge rig at Aldrich." from: your hubby.


    There appears to be some kind of 1908-vintage chalk graffiti on the car, but the car number is discernible if you squint hard at the full-size scanned image. The first two digits are admittedly obscured, but appear to be either "93" or "98".

    I checked a 1911 Official Railway Equipment Register (recently scanned and published on CD-ROM by Al Westerfield), and the number 93924 is consistent with a series of 43-foot, 40-ton capacity steel flatcars, numbered 93750-93999, that the Frisco owned in 1911.

    98924 is in a number range that was unused by the Frisco in 1911, eliminating it as a likely possibility.

    I think it would make a great model someday, if I could ever find a steam engine-and-thresher(?) set in HO. It might be especially interesting if one supposed that the "Will Eastridge" who owned it was a freelance jobber who moved his "rig" between several different towns, hiring out to different farmers as the harvest season progressed. Could make for some interesting local freight movements, especially if there were speed and handling restrictions on such an awkward load.

    Like the originator of this thread, I'd love to see other examples of unusual and interesting flatcar loads on the Frisco.
     
  5. nickmolo

    nickmolo Member

    Great flatcar load, Rick. Is this for your 1950's session or for both the seventies and fifities?

    I do like the idea of the same number car (which is easy to buy two of the same) with no load and the cabling and wood chocks remains.

    Nick
     
  6. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    :) Awesome model, Rick.
    You must now be x-eyed after building those chocks.
    They are really good.
     
  7. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Ribbon Rail

    For the out of the ordinary flat car load, a ribbon-rail train might pose an interesting challenge. A quarter-mile-long train would overwhelm a model railroad layout. Perhaps a ten-car train would fit the bill. Someplace, I have read about someone's attempt to model this type of train. The real challenge would be to come up with "rail" that would bend sufficiently to negotiate model curves.
     
  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Nice flat car loads, Rick. Of course my dad's first question would be "What kind of tractors?"

    I think it's been covered before, but I'd love to model army tanks and other military equipment rolling along on flatcars. I would, of course, have to better educate myself on the correct hardware.

    Somewhere I have an old RMC article on modeling lumber and steel plate being hauled on flat cars with specific AAR instructions on how to tie down the respective loads. It also included details on I-beam and pipe hauling in gons, which is a bit beyond this thread but one I wouldn't mind seeing!

    Well done!

    Best Regards,
     
  9. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    Thanks for the compliments on the tractor load.

    To answer Nick's question, this is a load of tractors for the 1950 session. I have a second car with 1970s tractors (need to show you the photo) and a third flat that I run empty. All three cars have identical reporting marks. The beautiful thing about these P2K flats is that they were built in the mid 1940s and ran through the 1970s. They must have been some tough cars because you know they suffered a lot of abuse.

    To answer Chris's question, these are Farmall tractors. I have some decals to put on them but have been too lazy to get that done lately. These are the inexpensive Lifelike tractors that are packaged in sets of three.

    Regarding military loads, I have been researching the types of vehicles, armored and otherwise, that comprise a tank company in 1975. Roco tanks and support vehicles have already been purchased for these loads, just need to get the duplicate cars. I also have some Shermans, jeeps and other WW II vehicles to do the same for the 1950 sessions.

    This is just too much fun.

    Ship IT on the Frisco!

    Rick
     

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