Nichols Junction, MP 242.0 (Springfield Sub), MP 198.3 (Ash Grove Sub)

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  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Mine's hanging in the den
     

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  2. railroadguy65

    railroadguy65 Member

    :) Nichols Junction today. The Diamond is gone but the area is clearly marked

    I have included a map - and 3 shots

    View 1 is looking east from Farm road 123 towards the junction

    View 2 & 3 are looking west from where the tracks cross over Farm road 123
     

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  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Located on the northwest side of Springfield MO is Nichols Junction. This is the point where traffic from Fort Scott, KS and north joins with traffic from Tulsa and southwest.

    First picture looking east from west end, zoomed in.
    Second picture looking east from west end.
    Third picture looking west from east end.
     

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  4. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Nichols is a sorry shadow of of it's former self. Back in the day, KC (via Fort Scott) bound passenger trains ROARED across the diamond and the inbound and outbound trains to Oklahoma hissed around the south side quadrant of the junction. There was a nearby drive-in theatre and you could hear a dozen trains go by during a double feature!

    Tom
     
  5. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I re-stumbled across this request from the "Random Attachments" on the home page.

    FMIG LINES Newsletter #104 has a letter from Ron Williams, which includes a sketch of Nichols Jct. in its original configuration. I've included it below.

    Best Regards,
     

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  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Nichols Jct cira early 1960's
     

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  7. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    We need to thank Karl for posting this Nichols map (As well as all the others he's done!), this is about as good as it gets for information on the actual Nichols area track plan. This was how the trackage appeared from about 1953-1970 (When I was by there regularly). You won't be able to get any better modeling info for Nichols Jct. than this!

    Tom
     
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  8. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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  9. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Alas, how things have changed. :(

    Ken
     
  10. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl--Can you identify some of the map notions for us? They're hard to read magnified or printed out. I can make out "HWY 160 Underpass," "Division St. Underpass" and a couple of others, but I can't identify the next straight "up and down" road to the left (West) of Hwy. 160 (Most of the numbers and mile posts are understandable).

    Thanks, Tom
     
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  11. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I have posted a higher resolution image below

     
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  12. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Karl! (For all you do)

    Tom
     
  13. MKfred55

    MKfred55 Mk junction Fred

    Thats where i go to watch trains now. Just 2 miles away. I too remember how it use to be.
     
  14. MKfred55

    MKfred55 Mk junction Fred

    Wow. You guys are amazing. I grew up around Chadwick Junction. I heard it was called MK junction. Thus my username. Anyone have a sketch?

    But actually I do remember it by heart. i always went there when Frisco trains were sent thru there when the East Belt was busy. Now of course the 2 main lines are now 1, but no trains go thru there as BNSF ripped up the track going east to WS Junction if that is what that junction is called. BNSF now runs coal trains out the Chadwick tracks. Glad you guys are here.

    Thanks for the info.
     
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  15. MKfred55

    MKfred55 Mk junction Fred

    Southern junction had a phone in a shanty too. And farther east on their main line across from a junk yard.
     
  16. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Some Arthur Johnson photos on the "Fallen Flags" site of the incident in question, showing 4404 having gone butt-over-teakettle, to paraphrase one of my favorite colloquialisms.

    http://rr-fallenflags.org/slsf/slsf-s4404o01a.jpg
    http://rr-fallenflags.org/slsf/slsf-s4404o01b.jpg
    http://rr-fallenflags.org/slsf/slsf-s4404o01c.jpg

    The first photo shows the original depot plus boxcar tool/motor car shed.
     
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  17. Martin L

    Martin L Member

    This looks like a really fun area to use as inspiration for parts of a layout. I have browsed thru the forum and and found the aerial photo from 1936 in the thread about the Nichols depot (Keith's post photo number two in http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/nichols-mo.277/#post-84623 ). Did the order of the turnouts at the start of the double track change between 1936 and 1960s (Karl's map of the layout above)?
     
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  18. Peddling Joe

    Peddling Joe Frisco Employee

    Was the Nichols Depot pictured built in the early 1960's? I believe I dug the foundation with a backhoe mounted on
    the rear of a Ford tractor. "Preacher" I want to say Nichols was the sur name of the B&B Supervisor. Later came Don Richardson, then Cecil Feathers.
     
  19. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Martin, I’d missed your question before and I don’t know the answer, but am bumping it here in case someone knows.

    Best Regards,
     
  20. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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