As of October 1945, the following cars were in blue and white: Baggage-RPO 134 209 216 217 220 221 222 223 224 225 RPO-Chair Combination 61 62 67 Baggage-Chair Combination 189 Baggage-RPO-Chair (Firefly) 82 83 Full Baggage 333 344 346 352 355 360 366 367 371 372 397 412 425 433 434 Coach 1053 1060 1062 1064 1068 1071 1073 1081 1083 1085 1102 1103 1203 1206 1207 1208 1213 Dining Car 644 645 646 647 648 Chair 751 752 753 754 757 759 761 765 762 769 771 773 774 775 JOPLIN OKMULGEE OK CITY TULSA Coach-Bunk 1090 1091 1093 Cafe-Lounge 1501 1502 1503 1504 1505 KANSAS CITY Coach-Snack-Lounge 1605 Stool Snack-Coach 1602 1607 1610 1611 Postal 2040 2045 2049 2054
Karl I would like to model the Meteor in N scale - do you suggest starting with heavy weight cars, then modifying the roof? Thanks, Jim PS - Was Zephyr blue closer to Navy Blue or a lighter shade, such as a medium or royal blue?
Modeling Frisco heavy-weight passengers cars can be problematic. Most of the cars had “turtleback” or arched roofs. Conversely, it seems that most of the model equipment comes with clerestory or as the Frisco called them, monitor roofs. I am uncertain what is available with regard to N-scale passenger equipment, but I suspect that you’ll have to scratch build a turtle back roof with styrene or take an arched roof from another car. At one time it was possible to buy basswood roofs in HO-Scale. I don’t know if these were ever produced in N-Scale. Streamlined Psgr Car Paint Scheme Zephyr Blue: Body, steps, grab irons Silver Gray(Very Light Gray or Off White): Center band and sash Dove Gray: Trucks, roof, underbody equipment Black: Underframe and diaphrams Gold: Letters and Numbers I think the Zephyr Blue scheme produced a handsome look. I was pleased when the SLSTA painted its support cars in that scheme for the 1522. I wonder what would have happened had the Frisco elected to keep that livery for its lightweight Meteor. Would the Frisco E units looked like the B&O? See: http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2446&d=1140801985 I used Floquil C&O Enchantment Blue on my Firefly locomotive with good results. SP Lark Gray should do well for Dove Gray, and add just a touch of gray to Reefer White to get the Silver Gray.
Thank you for the information Karl - this is exactly what I was looking for. I am going to use the Model Power heavyweight passenger cars, and build a new roof. It won't be an exact match, but for my little n scale layout, it will be just fine. One more question - the observation car - was it a typical open end, or was it closed (like the Firefly?) Thanks again Jim
At this time, the only open-platform "observation" cars used by the Frisco were the Business Cars. Some of the 1500 Series Cafe Lounge cars had rear windows in the lounge. 1501/1502 (Firefly) Blind End 1503 Rear Windows 1504 Rear Windows 1505 Blind End 1506 Blind End 1507 Rear Windows I have started a new thread in the heavy weight psgr car section, http://www.frisco.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=301 , and will try to get the car diagrams posted.
When we painted 1522's support cars, we used a urethane two part paint which was called "Flag Blue" and the stripe was white. We used a light gray for the roof. I thought it looked pretty good when done.
When my daughter and I were chasing 1522 on May 19, 2001 I was so excited to see the locomotive running that I forgot to take photos of the rest of the train. Did get a couple of photos of the train from the top of a bridge but it only shows the top. lol. Joe
