Transfer from Chicago? 1936-7

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  1. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Member

    My grandfather was 'transferred' from Chicago to Saint Louis.... Or so I'm told. How did that happen. Did Frisco have a Chicago Office in the 1930s?

    He was the Superintendent of the Baggage and Express department in Saint Louis in 1937.
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  2. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

    MaryAnne, welcome to the group.

    The Frisco did have representatives in Chicago. The closest info I can find is from 1926 that shows Frisco Offices at 112 West Adams Street

    Official List of Stations 1926 #18

    To wit:
    M.D. Riggs - District Passenger Agent
    R. Bowden - City Passenger Agent
    W.B. Wells - General Agent
    H.L. Morrison - Commercial Agent
    E.K. Yeager - Traveling Freight Agent
    I.R. Garretson - Soliciting Freight Agent
    C. Lillard - Soliciting Freight agent

    Best Regards,
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  3. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Member

    Thank you Chris. That was fast!
    How can I find out more?

    My Grandfather was James Patrick Hanlon, born in Chicago in 1904.

    In the 1930 Census he was listed an agent for the Steam Railroad in Chicago. He would have transferred to Saint Louis in 1936 or early 1937.

    Do you know the duties he would have had in Saint Louis?
    Would it have been hard to come in as an outsider (and an Irish Catholic) to head up this department?

    He died in Saint Louis in 1937, when he was in his early 30s and my dad was a child.

    The Employee Magazine was stopped in 1935. Employee cards only go back to 1940.

    His father John Patrick Hanlon had been a switchman for the railroad in Chicago per the 1910 & 1920 census. He was a Train Director for the Steam railroad in 1930. I'm guessing that wasn't Frisco?

    I'm also told my Grandfather met his wife working for the RR. She was Helen (Hoare) Hanlon. After he died she returned to family in Chicago and worked for the Eastern Weighing Company.... perhaps she worked as late as the 1960s or early 1970s.

    I've been told Jim and Helen Hanlon and their two oldest children traveled extensively and had been to almost every state in the country. Is this what train employees did back in the day?

    Looking for information. All thoughts and suggestions are welcomed.

    Also, I have a photograph of Frisco employees (executives I think, dressed in suits) from Saint Louis.
    When I scan it, how can I send it to this organization?
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  4. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter

    In the Sept 1931 PTT, J. P. Hanlon is listed as the Traveling Freight and Passenger Agent. Given his duties as a traveling Agent, I can see how he might have been to every state in the union. It was also common practice for the railroads to offer passes to the agents of other railroads, and I have no doubt that J. P. Hanlon had a wallet of passes from other railroads which he used to accomplish the duties of his job.

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  5. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Member

    Thanks Karl! You are wonderful and this is great.

    What does PTT stand for? Any suggestions on how to search for more info.... Is there anywhere to search for a list of Secretaries... looking for my Grandmother?

    Do you think he would have brought his family with him... or only traveled with them on vacations? Would they have traveled first class?

    Should I search for more of these lists of employees and positions?

    See photo below.
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  6. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Member

  7. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Member

    These are J.P. Hanlon's (James Patrick, called Jim by his wife) fellow executives at Frisco Lines in Saint Louis in 1936 or early 1937, He died in late April of 1937.

    His title was either the Superintendent of the Baggage and Express department, the Baggage and Express Supervisor, or Supervisor of Mail - Baggage. Maybe they all mean the same thing.

    I don't know the names of any of the others in the photo.

    The bottom left photographer's stamp says Kaufmann & Rory.
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  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Supporter

    PTT = Public TimeTable.
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  9. MaryAnne

    MaryAnne Member

    Thank you Meteor910.

    Are there more of these between 1922 and 1937 that I could comb through? Where might I find them online?
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  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

    Mary, we have a sub-forum under Historical, Operations, Timetables, where you can find all the timetables that we have had people submit.

    As Ken (meteor910) indicated PTT means Public TimeTable. These were published by the railroad for public use and sales.
    ETT means Employee TimeTable. These were published by the railroad for operations. Engineers and conductors on trains had copies that allowed them to know what the scheduled trains' times should be.
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  11. pensive

    pensive Member Supporter

    Thanks Karl, for posting the 1931 PTT. My grandfather's name, F. J. Lawler, is listed 3 times!

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