Photos of Short Line Boxcars (QA&P, AT&N, NEO, etc.)

Discussion in 'Boxcars' started by FriscoCharlie, Nov 20, 2008.

  1. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I'm still on this project.

    http://www.swco.ttu.edu/Guide/Photo/Qph.htm

    Quanah, Acme, and Pacific Railroad
    Photograph Collection, 1895-1974
    212 copy prints, 216 copy negatives
    SWCPC 81 (A)-(B)

    Consists of photographs of Quanah, Acme, and Pacific Railroad trains, depots, and tracks (1895-1954; 1974 and undated), and bulks with photographs of depots and tracks (1920-1950 and undated). The collection also contains photographs of the headquarters house on the Matador Ranch (undated); street scenes in Paducah, Texas (1896); and agricultural scenes (undated).

    Established as a short line railway in 1903, the Acme, Red River, and Northern originally connected the gypsum plants at Acme, Texas, with the Frisco line just outside of the Red River. In 1909, the line was extended west to Paducah and renamed the Quanah, Acme, and Pacific Railroad. The line extended to Floydada, Texas, in 1928, but failed to receive approval for any further extensions. Comanche war chief, Quanah Parker, visited the railway headquarters in Quanah on occasion to see what he termed "my railroad."

    Quanah, Acme and Pacific Railway Company
    Photograph Collection, 1909-1931
    35 B/W photo prints
    SWCPC 81

    Bulks with images of railroad properties of the Quanah, Acme and Pacific Railway Company, headquartered in Quanah, Texas. Includes images of railroad tracks, depots, passenger stations, tool house, cotton platform, stock pens, water tank, electric motor car, locomotive, switching engine, passenger coach, box car, bridge, culvert, and roundhouse shed. Bulks with depots.

    The Quanah, Acme and Pacific Railway Company began in 1902 as the Acme, Red River and Northern in Hardeman County. In 1909, owner Sam Lazarus changed the name and extended the line into Cottle and Motley Counties. Transferred from the Matador Land and Cattle Company Records.

    Quanah, Acme and Pacific Railway Company
    Photograph Collection, undated
    27 photo prints
    SWCPC 911

    Includes photos of tracks, cars, concrete culverts, mile markers, stations, roundhouse, and other buildings associated with the railroad.

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    I can't find any way to contact them about these images but in any event, I am in Maine, they are in Texas. I'm not sure how I could see these photos.

    Charlie
     
  2. renapper

    renapper Passed away March 8, 2013

    here are all of the photos that I have, #2082-12, the NEO Flatcar in Color, is for reference only if you wish to use it you must get permission from L.H. SAPP, he is with the MKT Hisatorical Society.
     

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  3. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks for posting those Richard! That's great. I am not going to use them for anything beyond reference (related to modeling).

    I'm still hoping we can somehow get access to those other photos too!

    Charlie
     
  4. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    What would the colors have been on this boxcar?

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  5. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Anyone care to wager on the accuracy of this colorization?
     

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  6. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Charlie, I'd say that the colorization is "good enough." Hard to tell for certain from the B/W, but the "red" does appear to be more faded. Wish I could make out any reweigh dates.

    This looks like the USRA Double-Sheathed design similar to what the SL-SF rostered, down to the Andrews Trucks. Now that Ken Wulfert's back, I'm hoping that he can either confirm or deny my truck-spotting skills.

    Best Regards,
     
  7. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris - Your truck skills are well honed. Andrews trucks indeed - looks like a USRA DS to me, similar to what the Frisco itself rostered in great numbers.

    Ken
     
  8. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I was thinking that it was probably close. We need more photos/information on these cars.

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  9. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken, thanks for confirming the trucks. Maybe I'll figure them all out someday.

    I'd be interested to know how the QA&P acquired their cars. I wonder if they were originally SL-SF purchases that were then lettered for QA&P, or if there was another route.

    Interestingly, 531 is one of only 3 total with identical dimensions, per the ORER page I scanned previously. Wonder why they're slightly difference from the 500-524 series. I'll have to compare to the Frisco's USRA Double-Sheathed numbers at home to see how they compare.

    Best Regards,
     
  10. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris -

    I'm not stating fact, but I'd imagine the QA&P simply purhcased their USRA double sheathed cars directly from the manufacturer back when they were popular, as many, many railroads did. This would be before the SLSF owned the QA&P.

    The Andrews truck is one of the easier to identify - look for the bar bolting the bottom of the journal box to the bottom of the truck side frame. The Andrews truck was an assembled truck - the idea was to use as much of the older arch bar truck parts as possible, as the arch bar truck was being phased out for interline service due to high failure rates.

    Ken
     
  11. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    With all of the photos out there of every railroad conceivable, I don't understand why there are not more photos of these cars.

    Charlie
     
  12. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    There is a collection at the Colorado RR Museum hat has some QA&P Photos. But you gotta make an appt with the Museum, before you can see the photos.. Have called a couple times but cannot get the appt set up.
    Tom Holley
     
  13. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken, thanks for the hypothesis (it sounds plausible to me), and for the additional tutorial on the Andrews Trucks.

    Best Regards,
     
  14. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Good luck, but it would be best if these photos were on the Internet. After all this time, it's not like anyone is going to do anything bad with the images.
     
  15. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Yea some of this stuff is crazy.
    Tom Holley
     

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