Mile Post Zero dot Zero

Discussion in 'General' started by Karl, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    A back channel query prompts this bit of trivia. How many mile posts zero did the Frisco have, and where was/were it/they? Shouldn't take much to answer the questions.
     
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  2. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Two? St. Louis and Kansas City Union Stations would be my guess...

    Tom
     
  3. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    St. Louis Union Station was MP 0.0 as far as I knew. I would guess maybe KC is the other.
     
  4. mark

    mark Member

    Karl,

    Interesting question.

    I am looking forward to everyone's input. At one point in time I can locate three by station name. From the same point in time, by subdivision and branch I can locate 5.

    Hopefully others will contribute to our knowledge base.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The obvious answer may not be the correct answer.
     
  6. WindsorSpring

    WindsorSpring Member

    I will make an informed guess that one is in or near Pacific, MO. The tracks for the eastern division diverged there from the Pacific Railroad of Missouri as the South Pacific Railroad.
     
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  7. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    So Karl--We give up--give us the answer!

    Tom
     
  8. john

    john FRISCO.org Supporter

    Here's all I could come up with:

    0.0 St Louis Sta.# 007
    0.0 Kansas City,MO Sta.#C004 (Union Sta. was 1.1) both East.Div ETT

    0.0 Ft. Wood Branch, Bundy Jct.
    0.0 Paris & Great Northern RR (Arthur, state line)
     
  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    KC is one location, and MP-C0.0 is at 12th Street.

    More later....
     

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  10. gbmott

    gbmott Member

    Possibly also Fayetteville on the O&CC? I don't have an operating timetable with which to confirm that, though.

    Gordon
     
  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    My 10/1/80 track chart shows the SLSF Eastern Division MP 0.0 to be located somewhere east of 21st Street in St Louis. It looks to be on TRRA trackage.

    Not sure I understand just where this spot is, or why it's on the TRRA.

    Ken
     

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  12. pensive

    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken-The spot appears to be just east of the Jefferson Avenue overpass. If you ever take the Metrolink downtown, it's right past the maintenance barn where the line takes a hard left to go under Union Station. As a former daily rider of Metrolink, I don't recall anything notable about the spot. -Rich
     
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  13. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Rich -

    Thanks, good observations from your Metrolink riding days - glad you wern't wasting time reading the P-D!

    You are probably correct - an arbitrary starting point for the SLSF. The thing that has me confused is that MP 0.0 is indicated on the track chart as being well inside the TRRA trackage boundary, with no track grade, elevation or maintenance information posted along the bottom of the chart until after MP 1.0, suggesting that TRRA was doing the maintenance until that point. ???

    Perhaps there were some TRRA served industries along there, and the SLSF let them serve them as long as TRRA did the maintenance? ??? Anybody know?

    I'll ask Larry Thomas.

    Ken
     
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  14. DanHyde

    DanHyde Member

    Isn't that area by the Metrolink barn close to the old Choteau yard and roundhouse? Maybe thats where that MP came from.
    Just scratching the noodle! :p
    Dan
     
  15. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

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  16. pensive

    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I get it now, it's a block or two southwest of where Busch Stadium now stands. -Rich
     

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