Frisco PR Photo What? Where?

Discussion in 'Passenger Operations' started by Karl, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter

    While in Missouri during the Thanksgiving Holiday, I looked through some of my father's photos and I found this photo, which was taken by a Frisco photographer. It looks like it might be the Texas Special as it passed through the far-western, St Louis "suburbs". Anybody have any thoughts to location. That monitor-roofed, heavy weight chair car is certainly an anachronism. Might it be a MKT Chair car?

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  2. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Supporter Supporter

    Karl--I think you're right about the train being the Texas Special (RPO has small ownership roadname boards at each end of letter board). Also agree on Katy HW chair car. I also believe the fourth car with the turtle back roof is the Frisco heavyweight coach-buffet-lounge "Glendale" (#1603). VERY cool photo! Don't know about location though.


    PS: Is that picture dated?
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  3. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Supporter

    Neat pic!

    Very hard to spot the location with any certainty. Assume it is westbound in the summer months given the daylight and that it is indeed the Texas Special. Given the dual main tracks and fairly open terrain, assume it is between Kirkwood (MP 12.7) and Valley Park (MP17.5). Given the curve to the left, assume it is around either MP 13.5, MP 15, or MP 16.5.

    Using my best SWAG talents (after 35 years in industry, I have much experience with SWAG's!), I'll guess around MP 13.6, just past Green Parrot approaching the location of today's I-270 crossing before going by the Osage Hills depot. Good location for the SLSF PR photo guy. But, it's a total SWAG!

    Ken :rolleyes:
  4. gbmott

    gbmott Member

    I totally agree with Tom -- Texas Special with a Katy HW chair car and the fourth car being the Glendale (if you look closely at the photo you can make out the shadowlining). And yes, very cool photo!

  5. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Supporter Supporter

    Karl--I have some actual Texas Special consists from the 1950's--If you have the date, we might determine the entire consist.

  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter

    I regret to say that a date is not specified.
  7. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Supporter Supporter

    Anyway it's a gem of a picture. Thanks for sharing.

  8. pbender

    pbender Member Supporter


    Do you think you could share some of those consists. I'm sure a number of us would like to see them.

  9. b147584

    b147584 Member

    Karl, looks the curve at MP 16. There is a road crossing there (first one west of Kirkwood) and is probably where the photographer is standing.
  10. DanHyde

    DanHyde Member

    I think that location uis where Kirkwood and Valley Park meet, just before starting downgrade towards the river. I was on that stretch a few years back, just seeing where an access road went.

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