Dismiss Notice
PLEASE READ THIS THREAD REGARDING SITE FUNDING AND SERVER CHANGES
Dismiss Notice
ANOTHER GREAT FRISCO RAFFLE!

Frisco PR Photo - What? Where? - Texas Special - With E8A SLSF 2010 + Another E8A And 7+ Cars

Discussion in 'Passenger Operations' started by Karl, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    While in Missouri during the Thanksgiving Holiday, I looked through some of my father's photos and I found this photo, which was taken by a Frisco photographer.

    It looks like it might be the Texas Special as it passed through the far-western, St Louis "suburbs".

    Anybody have any thoughts to location?

    That monitor-roofed, heavy weight chair car is certainly an anachronism.

    Might it be a MKT Chair car?
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    Karl, Dec 2, 2008
    #1
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024), mountaincreekar and Ozarktraveler like this.
  2. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl

    I think you're right about the train being the Texas Special.

    The RPO has small ownership road name boards at each end of letter board. Also agree on Katy heavyweight chair car. I also believe the fourth car with the turtle back roof is the Frisco heavyweight coach-buffet-lounge SLSF 1603, "Glendale". VERY cool photo!

    Don't know about location though.

    Tom

    PS: Is that picture dated?
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020), Dec 2, 2008
    #2
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024) and Ozarktraveler like this.
  3. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Neat picture!

    Very hard to spot the location with any certainty.

    Assume it is westbound in the summer months given the daylight and that it is indeed the Texas Special. Given the dual main tracks and fairly open terrain, assume it is between Kirkwood (MP 12.7) and Valley Park (MP17.5). Given the curve to the left, assume it is around either MP 13.5, MP 15, or MP 16.5.

    Using my best SWAG talents (after 35 years in industry, I have much experience with SWAG's!), I'll guess around MP 13.6, just past Green Parrot approaching the location of today's I-270 crossing before going by the Osage Hills depot. Good location for the SLSF PR photo guy.

    But, it's a total SWAG!

    Ken :rolleyes:
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    meteor910, Dec 2, 2008
    #3
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024) and mountaincreekar like this.
  4. gbmott

    gbmott Member

    I totally agree with Tom.

    Texas Special with a Katy heavyweight chair car and the fourth car being the Glendale. If you look closely at the photo you can make out the shadow lining.

    And yes, very cool photo!

    Gordon
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    gbmott, Dec 2, 2008
    #4
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024), mountaincreekar and Ozarktraveler like this.
  5. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl,

    I have some actual Texas Special consists from the 1950's.

    If you have the date, we might determine the entire consist.

    Tom
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020), Dec 3, 2008
    #5
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024), mountaincreekar and Ozarktraveler like this.
  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I regret to say that a date is not specified.
     
    Karl, Dec 3, 2008
    #6
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024) and Ozarktraveler like this.
  7. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Anyway it's a gem of a picture.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Tom
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020), Dec 3, 2008
    #7
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024) and Ozarktraveler like this.
  8. pbender

    pbender Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom,

    Do you think you could share some of those consists. I'm sure a number of us would like to see them.

    Paul
     
    pbender, Dec 3, 2008
    #8
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024) and Ozarktraveler like this.
  9. b147584

    b147584 Member

    Karl,

    Looks the curve at MP 16.

    There is a road crossing there, first one west of Kirkwood, and is probably where the photographer is standing.

    Brandon
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    b147584, Dec 11, 2008
    #9
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024) likes this.
  10. DanHyde

    DanHyde Member

    I think that location is where Kirkwood and Valley Park meet, just before starting downgrade towards the river.

    I was on that stretch a few years back, just seeing where an access road went.

    Later,

    Dan
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    DanHyde, Jan 27, 2009
    #10
    Sirfoldalot (Sherrel Weems RIP 8/29/2024) and mountaincreekar like this.
  11. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 2, 2024
    klrwhizkid, Feb 10, 2023
    #11
    WindsorSpring likes this.

Share This Page