Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg Was this the 1990 NRHS trip? I was on that one, in a UP car (I wanted a car where the a/c would work - it was hot!). Ken
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg Ken,yes it is! I might add of all the steam locomotives I chased this is the best sounding one of all!
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg Nice job. It was blistering hot that day. And up in the cab, about 30 deg hotter when sitting still. Had to do some serious bodily fluid repenishment at the biergarten at U. Station that night.
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg I'm no doubt one of the guys hanging out of a vestibule on one of the UP cars. I forget which car I was in, or where it was in the UP block of cars. The day was terribly hot. Even 1522 needed an unplanned stop for a drink - Rolla, thanks to the Rolla Fire Dept. I'll never forget the photo run-by, somewhere around Stanton as I recall. All the NRHS folks from out of town ran out into the brush trackside to get a good photo position. Not this old Ozark veteran! Later in the day, on the way back to St Louis, they were all scratching like crazy from the chiggers! Ken
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg That is a very nicely done video. OK .. I'll bite (lol)! How Hot Was It?
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg It was sooooo hot, that despite being coated in suntan lotion, I was totally roasted red at Bundy Jct. We spoke with some crewmembers at Rolla, who thought the train would turn at Bundy BEFORE being serviced at Newburg. After grabbing photos at Newburg, we headed to Grotto Road where I hiked to Bundy Jct thinking I would not have much time before the train showed up. We were wrong. I was so cooked, after hiking back to the car at Grotto Rd and dumping the video gear, I took my 35mm camera and sat down in the nearby creek to cool off. Shot photos of the train returning to Newburg from the middle of the creek. It was a great excursion, and a great day for 1522. Ted Ferkenhoff
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg Trust me, it was miserably hot. I don't know what the temp was but it had to be at least upper 90s and there wasn't a breath of air moving down in Newburg. They didn't let the people off the train there because of the heat and A/C was shooting craps in a lot of the cars. We had to stop at Rolla E/B where an ambulance met us to take someone off the train. I'm not sure I've ever been that hot and being the first time I had run the engine on a main line, I was nervous to boot. I ran E/B out of Newburg. What made it worse was as far as I knew, there was only one john in Newburg which was in the Houston House and the line was long. I had to almost sling some poor kid out of the way to get in there. I feel sorry for those who followed. Nerves again. Ah the memories.
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg I was amazed by the stack talk alone, the Narrow Guage stuff I have seen and stood next too, do not compare to this Majestic locomotive, A question. What was the maximum speed for the territory? It looked to me as Frisco 1522, was certainly in command of the tonnage, to say the least. It is regretful that is was so hot for you guys but I am so glad you were there to record this for us all. Thank You. I remember the UP Challenger going thru here setting all the hotbox detectors off Tom Holley
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg Ted, I remember that very well myself, I was so drained I actually drank water out of the Piney, don't know that I would do that today, wasn't Kevin Kassay with you at Bundy? I can remember he was trying to put a video together, but back then video cameras were still new. Brad Slone
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg Even with all that heat, there was a huge crowd waiting for us at Newburg. It was, however, a major disappointment that we could not get off the train while stopped at Newburg, as there were many friends there on the ground. I got to talk to several from a UP vestibule. It was a wise decision for me to pick a UP car to ride in - our a/c was good the entire day. My big problem that day was in the bus ride from the yard when we returned, back down to StL Union Station, where I had parked that morining. Some guy's video camera outfit fell from the overhead and clonked me right in the head. As many of you know, I don't have much hair up there to cushion the blow. I haven't been the same since! Ken
Re: Frisco 1522 St.Louis to Newburg Hey Brad, yes, Kevin Kassay was with me. We did put a video together...we need to see about digitizing it. We had two other video "teams" in our group. We started at Pacific and leapfrogged each other to Bundy, then back east as far as Dillon. Ted
While not the same trip or even the same year, those who enjoy watching footage of 1522 in action might also want to check out Karl and Paul Brand's chase video from May, 1992: http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?2121-Extra-Frisco-1522-East-May-17-1992&highlight=1522 Best Regards,
.......and if you're really hungry for more, do a 1522 search on You Tube. I watched several videos of her. Pretty good stuff.
Tferk, you need to digitize the stuff to keep it from deteriorating and also so I could see it. I know everybody will feel sorry for me, but I really didn't get to see 1522 run very much due to being on it. I've had to go on ebay and buy some slides and a couple of DVDs to see what she looked like on the outside. Get that stuff out here.
This is a question a little bit off center for Don Wirth: Did the Frisco have any rule books for the handling of oil burning steam locomotives? Did you have such a thing when you worked on 1522? I just read an article in the SPHS's "Trainline" magazine about oil burners and there was a picture of a 1920's SP oil burner rule book. If the Frisco had such a thing, it would be a nice railfan/colletor artifact. Thanks, Tom
I'm sure the Frisco had such a manual but we never found one. We did find a great one from the ATSF which used the same kind of burner. Early on we had a couple of visits from Gilbert Wofford, who had fired back in the day and he gave us some nice tips. He had fired for my Dad back in the end of steam and was a big help to me and the rest of the firemen. His son is an engineer on the BNSF (I guess he still is).
