Decorating an RS1: Guidance Needed

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  1. trainchaser007

    trainchaser007 Passed away September 22, 2017

  2. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I haven't found any reviews or recommendations regarding that moisture trap, but the Paasche Inline Moisture Trap (MT) has received some good reviews. I don't think that I would be interested in anything that increases the bulk of the airbrush itself. That includes the filter that you propose and even one by Iwata that connects directly to the airbrush.
     
  3. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I can't attest to the quality of the trap cited, but in Houston, one IS required.
     
  4. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Moisture traps work OK, but deliver success that is inversely proportional to the current humidity in your basement or train room. At times of high humidity, it may be better to wait for another day.

    I also have the Paasche inline trap, and am happy with it. I use both the Paasche Type H and Type VL brushes. (*) I've really only had a moisture problem a couple of times, and as suggested above, I just waited until later. I have it mounted in the hose about a fourth of the way out from the compressor - the hose is ten feet long. I set the compressor on the basement floor under my work table, where it is usually cool even in the summer. The basement is air conditioned, as we have about two-thirds of it finished into office, exercise, laundry, and railroad hobby space, plus in the summer we run a dehumidifier when the StL humidity is oppressive (frequently, but not so bad this year).

    Ken

    (*) I'm not very good with the double acting brush. I have far better success with the old, trusty "H". What is your experience?
     
  5. trainchaser007

    trainchaser007 Passed away September 22, 2017

    I do not have space or ventalation in my train room for airbrushing. It's a small outside storage room with a window air conditioner and electric space heater. So far I have been airbrushing in our carport (with cars removed). It's clear that an in-line moisture trap in addition to the stock moisture trap is going to be necessary here in Alabama. Would keeping the compressor inside with the a/c on while airbrushing outside help?
     
  6. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I guess keeping the compressor inside an air conditioned space, drawing suction on conditioned air with lower humidity, would help somewhat.

    If it is at all breezy outside, I would be concerned about your work picking up dust while the paint is still wet/tacky.

    Ken
     
  7. trainchaser007

    trainchaser007 Passed away September 22, 2017

    One of the things I'd like to get around to soon is finally painting and decaling my undecorated RS1. Can anyone tell me where to find Frisco/AT&N RS1 decals? Are there any on ebay?
    - Brandon
     
  8. trainchaser007

    trainchaser007 Passed away September 22, 2017

    Take a look at this Alco builder's photo of AT&N, RS-1, #101. I'm interested in this scheme or something along these lines for my undecorated RS-1.
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    I'm probably going to have to make my own decals. I can get the herald from here...
    http://frisco.demopolis.ws/atn.htm, but how in the world could I actually make one since I can't print white??? (It appears white to me.)
    Has anyone ever cut out a stencil with an exacto knife, then air brushed a design? If so, please share some insight. If you know of any other way, please share. Thanks. - Brandon
     

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  9. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I believe that the oriaginal AT&N livery was yellow and black. Using B&W images to determine color is fraught with peril, because different B&W films produce different shades of gray for the same subject color. I believe that you would be disappointed with a hand-cut stencil of that size. That is if you could even cut one.
     
  10. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    A good AT&N hint is the pic of AT&N 12, a GE 80-tonner, on page 15 of Marre/Sommers "Frisco in Color" (volume 1). The GE is wearing weathered black paint, with yellow herald and number on the cab side.

    Now, where to get the herald decal???

    Ken
     
  11. trainchaser007

    trainchaser007 Passed away September 22, 2017

    As for the original AT&N RS1 heralds... http://frisco.demopolis.ws/atn.htm

    I can screen shot that with the "print screen" key, then crop it down to what i need.

    Now, about that pic of AT&N 12 and the GE 80 tonner... Were they in their original AT&N scheme or where they in the Frisco B/Y/AT&N stenciled scheme?

    - Brandon
     
  12. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Brandon -

    The AT&N only had one GE 80-ton unit, #12. The pic in the Marre/Sommers book is of it in its original AT&N colors, black with yellow letters and herald, before the AT&N became part of the Frisco. The #12 was built in 1942; the Frisco sold it in, I think, 1948, after they acquired the AT&N. SLSF was smart enough by then to know even an 80-ton GE was not heavy enough for any use they could envision, so they got rid of it. Check the pic in the book.

    Ken
     

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