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  1. dave

    dave Guest

    I want to model the Clinton Sub in HO. Need to know about train operations from the 40's through the early to mid 1970's.

    I have some track charts and timetables. Can anyone give me any kind of overview of traffic, motive power etc??
     
  2. mike

    mike Guest

    Dave,

    See "Timetables/Local, Road Switcher and Yard Assignments, 1/15/1968" and "Timetables/System Time Table effective October 17, 1971, PG. 42" for typical operation early sixties to early seventies. There is an excellent web page at: http://members.tripod.com/~martin_t/hyline.html.

    Hope some of this helps.

    Mike Lutzenberger
     
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  3. rogerrt477

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  4. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations and Mile Posts - Harlan Junction to Tracy Junction, MO

    Harlan Junction to Tracy Junction, MO

    M. P.---Station--------Built----P. C.--------County----Abandoned
    133.5---Harlan Jct.----1885----KCC&S----St. Clair----1979
    134.5---Vista-----------1885----KCC&S----St. Clair----1979
    135.5---Tracy Jct.------1885----KCC&S----St. Clair----1979

    Predecessor Company
    1) KCC&S - Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY

    Notes
    1) Connects with Clinton Subdivision, Eastern Division at Harlan Junction.
    2) Connects with Clinton Subdivision, Eastern Division at Tracy Junction.
    3) Trackage rights by Frisco over KCC&S Harlan Junction to Tracy Junction effective 1904.
    4) Abandonment approved 10/19/79, officially abandoned 2/16/80.
     
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  5. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    Clinton Subdivision - List of Stations And Mile Posts - Lowry City Junction to Harlan Junction, MO

    Clinton Subdivision - List of Stations And Mile Posts - Lowry City Junction to Harlan Junction, MO

    M. P.---Station------------Built----P. C.-----------County-----Abandoned
    120.1---Lowry City Jct.---1885----KCC&S RY----St. Clair----1979
    121.9---Lowry City--------1885----KCC&S RY----St. Clair----1979
    129.7---North Osceola----1885----KCC&S RY----St. Clair----1926
    129.8---Osceola-----------1885----KCC&S RY----St. Clair----1926
    133.5---Harlan Jct.-------1885----KCC&S RY----St. Clair----1926

    Predecessor Company
    1) KCC&S - Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield, RY

    Notes
    1) Connects with Clinton Sub, Eastern Division at Lowry City Junction.
    2) Connects with Clinton Sub, Eastern Division at Harlan Junction.
    3) Ran side by side South Lowry City to Osage River, North Osceola.
    4) Lowry City Jct. to Lowry City, MO officially abandoned 10/14/78.
    5) Lowry City Jct., rails removed 12/22/79.
    6) Lowry City, rails removed 12/20/79
    7) Harlan Junction, rails removed mid-11/79.
     
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  6. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Tracy Junction to Springfield, MO

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Tracy Junction to Springfield, MO

    M. P.---Station--------------Built----P. C.------------County---Abandoned
    121.3---Tracy Jct.-----------1904----KCO&S RY----Polk-------1979
    127.2---Gerster--------------1898----KCO&S RY----Polk------1979
    132.9---Weaubleau---------1898----KCO&S RY----Polk-------1979
    139.1---Flemington---------1898----KCO&S RY----Polk-------1979
    147.4---Cliquot--------------1898----KCO&S RY----Polk------1979
    154.2---Bolivar--------------1898----KCO&S RY----Polk-------1979

    154.2---Bolivar--------------1884----S&N RY--------Polk------1994
    158.2---Karlin---------------1884----S&N RY--------Polk------1994
    162.6---Morrisville----------1884----S&N RY-------Polk------1994
    164.5---Wishart-------------1884----S&N RY--------Polk------1994
    169.5---Graydon Springs---1884----S&N RY-------Polk-------1994
    173.5---Walnut Grove-------1884----S&N RY-------Greene---1994
    176.1---Harold---------------1884----S&N RY-------Greene---1994
    178.5---Pearl-----------------1884----S&N RY-------Greene---1994
    183.3---Willard--------------1884----S&N RY-------Greene---2001
    187.3---Ritter----------------1884----S&N RY-------Greene---2001
    191.3---DeMund-------------1884----S&N RY-------Greene
    194.4---Springfield----------1884----S&N RY-------Greene

    Predecessor Companies
    1) KCO&S RY - Kansas City, Osceola & Southern RY
    2) S&N RY - Springfield & Northern RY

    Notes
    1) In 1904 Frisco built a new connection from Tracy Junction to about 2-miles east of the new junction and abandoned the line from Harlan Junction to about 2 miles east of Tracy Junction and began running on the Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY from Harlan Junction thru Vista to Tracy Junction.
    2) Connects with Springfield Terminal at Springfield, MO.
    3) Last passenger train 5/27/54.
    4) Last train Tracy Junction to Bolivar 10/14/78 with SLSF engine EMD GP7 521, 15 cars & caboose SLSF 1417.
    5) Tracy Junction to Bolivar abandonment approved 10/19/79. On 2/16/80 Frisco reported to the ICC that the line was officially abandoned.
    6) Last train Bolivar to Willard 10/22/93, rails removed Spring 1995.
    7) Willard to DeMund abandonment filed 9/16/99, approved 5/2/01.
     
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  7. rogerrt477

    rogerrt477 Guest

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Brownington to Lowry City Junction, MO

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Brownington to Lowry City Junction, MO

    M. P.---Station------------Built----P. C.----------County----Abandoned
    96.2----Brownington-----1883----KC&S RY----Henry-----1978
    97.7----Dunlop------------1883----KC&S RY----Henry-----1934
    100.4---Chloe-------------1884----KC&S RY----St. Clair---1934
    102.?---Lowry City Jct.---1884----KC&S RY----St. Clair---1934

    Predecessor Company-
    1) Kansas City & Southern RY

    Notes-
    1) Connects with Deepwater Cut-off at Brownington, MO.
    2) Connects with Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY at Lowry City Junction.
    3) Abandoned 8/1934.
     
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  8. rogerrt477

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    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts -Brownington to Deepwater Junction, MO

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts -Brownington to Deepwater Junction, MO

    M. P.---Station-----------Built----P. C.---------County---Abandoned
    96.0---Brownington-----1925----SLSF RY----Henry----1978
    98.7---DeJun-------------1925----SLSF RY----Henry----1978
    98.7---Deepwater Jct.---1925----SLSF RY----Henry----1978

    Predecessor Company
    1) SLSF RY - St. Louis-San Francisco RY

    Notes
    1) Connects with Clinton Sub, Eastern Division at Brownington.
    2) Connects with Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY at Deepwater Junction (DeJun).
    3) Towns of Browington & Deepwater served by short spurs.
    4) Last passenger train 5/27/54.
    5) Last freight train 10/14/78 with engine SLSF 521, 15 cars & caboose SLSF 1417.
    6) Rails removed last week 12/79 - first week 1/80,
     
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  9. rogerrt477

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    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts -Harrisonville to Brownington, MO

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts -Harrisonville to Brownington, MO

    M. P.---Station-----------Built----P. C.------County-----Abandoned
    44.3---Harrisonville-----1888----KC&S----Cass--------1989
    50.9---East Lynne-------1885----KC&S----Cass---------1989
    54.9---Gunn City--------1885----KC&S----Cass---------1979
    58.6---Latour------------1885----KC&S-----Johnson---1979
    64.4---Quick City--------1885----KC&S----Johnson----1979
    68.7---Blairstown--------1885----KC&S----Henry------1979
    74.0---Maurine----------1885----KC&S----Henry-------1978
    78.6---Harvey------------1885----KC&S----Henry------1978
    82.4---Livingston--------1885----KC&S----Henry------1978
    84.6---Coon Creek-------1885----KC&S----Henry------1978
    85.3---Clinton Jct.-------1885----KC&S----Henry
    85.4---MKT Crossing---1883----KC&S----Henry
    85.4---North Clinton----1883----KC&S----Henry
    85.9---Clinton-----------1883----KC&S----Henry-------1978
    89.7---Levy---------------1883----KC&S----Henry------1978
    95.0---Blanchard--------1883----KC&S----Henry-------1978
    96.6---Brownington-----1883----KC&S----Henry-------1978

    Predecessor Company
    1) KC&S RY - Kansas City & Southern RY

    Notes
    1) Connects with Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY at Harrisonville, MO.
    2) Interchanges with Missouri Pacific and Missouri-Kansas-Texas RR at Harrisonville, MO.
    3) Interchanges with Missouri-Kansas-Texas RR at East Lynne, MO.
    4) Connects with Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY via trackage rights over Missouri-Kansas-Texas RR from North Clinton to South Clinton 1926-1935.
    5) Interchanges with Missouri-Kansas-Texas RR at North Clinton, MO.
    6) Connects with Deepwater Cut-off at Brownington, MO.
    7) Last passenger train 5/27/54, mixed train service begins 5/28/54 until 1967 with passenger carried in the caboose between only North Clinton and Centropolis, MO.
    8) East Lynne to Blairstown embargoed 1976 account of bridge fire between Blairstown and Quick City. Service to Blairstown provided by Clinton - Springfield Local.
    9) Blairstown to Clinton embargoed 1977 account bridge fire between Blairstown and Maurine.
    10) Last freight train 10/14/1978 Clinton to Springfield with engine SLSF 521, 15 cars & caboose SLSF 1417.
    11) Trackage in Clinton area turned over to Missouri-Kansas-Texas RR to serve former Frisco customers 10/15/1978.
    12) Frisco/MKT crossing removed at North Clinton early 1979.
    13) East Lynne to Blairstown abandoned 10/19/79, on 2/16/80 Frisco reported to the ICC the line was officially abandoned.
    14) Rails removed Brownington to East Lynne 1 - 2/1980.
    15) Rails removed Harrisonville to East Lynne 2/91.
     
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  10. rogerrt477

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    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Belton to Harrisonville, MO

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Belton to Harrisonville, MO

    M. P.---Station-------------Built----P. C.----------County----Abandoned
    27.3---Belton---------------1888----KC&S RY----Cass-------
    31.9---Harrelson-----------1888----KC&S RY----Cass-------1994
    35.8---Peculiar-------------1888----KC&S RY----Cass-------1994
    38.9---Barton--------------1888----KC&S RY----Cass-------1989
    43.9---MP Crossing-------1888----KC&S RY----Cass------1989
    43.9---M-K-T Crossing---1888----KC&S RY----Cass-------1989
    43.9---KCC&S Crossing---1888----KC&S RY----Cass-------1989
    44.3---Harrisonville-------1888----KC&S RY----Cass-------1989

    Predecessor Company
    1) KC&S RY - Kansas City & Southern RY

    Notes
    1) Connects with Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY at Belton, MO.
    2) Connects with Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY at Harrisonville, MO.
    3) Interchanges with Missouri Pacific RR & Missouri-Kansas-Texas RR at Harrisonville, MO.
    4) Last passenger train 5/27/54, mixed-train service until 1967, passengers carried in caboose only.
    5) Belton to Peculiar, MO. sold to Smokey Hill RR 1989.
    6) Rails removed Barton, MO. 12/8/90.
    7) Rails removed Harrisonville to Peculiar, MO. 12/90.
    8) South Belton to Peculiar, MO abandoned by Smokey Hill RR, rails removed Winter 1994.
    9) Belton to South Belton in service as tourist railroad as of 2001.
    10) Smokey Hill Railroad sells Belton to South Belton to Belton, Grandview and Kansas City Railroad 20??.
     
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  11. rogerrt477

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    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Kansas City to Belton, MO

    Clinton Subdivision - List Of Stations And Mile Posts - Kansas City to Belton, MO

    M. P.---Station------------Built----P. C.----------County-----Abandoned
    0.0-----Kansas City--------------------------------Jackson----
    5.0-----Blue Valley Jct.----------------------------Jackson----

    5.0-----Blue Valley Jct.---1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----
    5.0-----Sheffield Jct.------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----
    5.1------Sheffield----------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----
    6.1------Centropolis-------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----
    6.8-----Una----------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----
    8.4-----Leeds--------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----
    8.7-----37th St.------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----
    9.9-----Leeds Jct.----------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----

    9.9-----Leeds Jct.----------------------------------Jackson----1967
    15.2----Dodson-------------------------------------Jackson----1967

    15.2----Dodson------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----1989
    16.5----Marino-------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----1989
    16.5----Lambert-----------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----1989
    16.8----Flinn---------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----1989
    17.1----Holmes-------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----1989
    19.1----Jeffery's------------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson----1989
    21.8----Grandview---------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson
    24.5----Belvidere----------1888----KC&S RY----Jackson
    27.3----Belton--------------1888----KC&S RY----Cass

    Predecessor Company
    1) KC&S RY - Kansas City & Southern RY

    Notes
    1) Connects with Kansas City Terminal Division at Blue Valley Junction.
    2) Trackage rights on Kansas City Terminal RR Kansas City (19th Street Yard & Rosedale Yard) to Blue Valley Junction.
    3) Blue Valley Junction as known as BV Junction.
    4) Blue Valley Jct. to Leeds Jct. in service BNSF Ry 2001, leased to Gateway Western RR 1997-2000.
    5) Adjoining parallel Missouri Pacific, Kansas City Subdivision, tracks raised by 3' to help reduce flooding from Big Blue River. Clinton Subdivision main track abandoned and removed in favor of trackage rights on Missouri Pacific RR Leeds Junction to Dodson during Summer 1967.
    6) Last passenger train 5/27/54, mixed-train service with passengers handled in caboose from Clinton to Centropolis until 1967.
    6) Rails removed Dodson to Grandview, MO 1/1991.
    7) Track from Grandview (Truman Rd) to Belton (150th St.) sold to Kansas City Southern RY 1989. In service.
    8) Track from Belton (150th St.) to Peculiar, MO sold to Smokey Hill Ry 1989.
    9) Smokey Hill Ry abandons and sells for scrap line Harlson to Peculiar 1991.
    10) Smokey Hill Ry folds and becomes Belton, Grandview & Kansas City RR ????
    11) Connects with Kansas City, Clinton & Springfield RY at Belton.
     
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  12. David Boehmer

    David Boehmer Member

    I might be able to help you. I once typed in. Railroad depots of Missouri,and way given a link to a site. That listed alphabetically. Towns in Missouri,and the pictures of their depots. Came up. I saw several depot pictures . Like the one in Clinton,La Tour,and Blairstown,and Osceola. My parents came from that region. So it was of interest to me. My name is David Boehmer. My email is boehmer1955@yahoo.com. If I can help you. Let me know. As I found a web site that was by a Jerry somebody,and he had a treasure of pictures. I'll do what I can. You might try. Railroad depots of Oklahoma.They had a good shot of the Frisco depot in Henryetta.
    Be Blessed
    David Boehmer
     
  13. North Clinton Yard, MO, MP 86.2, Clinton Junction, MP 86.7, MKT Crossing, MP 86.1, Clinton, MO, MP 86.8 - Track Diagrams

    Chaining notes of SLSF ex-KCO&S trackage near Clinton, ca. 1917. I apologize for the poor quality of these scans, but it's the best I could do with photocopies. Originals are in Missouri State University library archives/special collections.

    After the website refused the uploads yesterday, I shrunk the images by 50% in each dimension before trying again.
     

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  14. North Clinton Yard, MO, MP 86.2 - Track Diagrams

    Digital pics of diagrams from completion reports, etc., for North Clinton Yard from 1923 to 1950. Originals are in the Missouri State University archives.

    Note that the stock pen retirement diagram from 1949 also shows the east end of the yard and part of the long elevator spur to the southwest.

    Also note disappearance of coaling trestle between 1937 and 1943, replaced by a much less elaborate coaling spur behind the roundhouse.

    BAS
     

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  15. Clinton, MO, MP 86.8 - Track Diagram

    A rather blurry digital pic of a diagram of the downtown Clinton passenger spur. From Missouri State U. Poor quality of the picture is my fault.

    BAS
     

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  16. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    From my father's field notes; circa early 60's
     

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  17. grace65746

    grace65746 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Harrisonville to Brownington, MO Stations and Mileposts

    I have heard about two bridge fires on the Clinton Subdivision but I didn't know about where they were or when the incidents took place. That explains why the rails north of the Highway 7 crossing at Clinton were rusted and weeds growing up on the track before the line was removed. Service between KC and Clinton probably would have lasted a little longer if the bridge fires hadn't have happened.

    Gary Wayne
     
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