4136

Discussion in '2-8-2 Mikado' started by William Jackson, Mar 1, 2012.

  1. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    I have a photo of my grandfather in 1926 (a group photo of the north shop roundhouse) on the Frisco 4136.
    I thought I might model it, though I do not know the history or where it went.
    Does anyone know a close model or any history.
    I really can not see the engine well in the photo.
    Thanks for any help you might give.
    William Jackson
     
  2. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    4136 would be a 2-8-2 mikado, if memory serves it was a light mikado. I'm not a steam expert so I will let someone with more knowledge fill you in on the history of the locomotive.
    As far as models of this series of this engine, Athearn Genesis made a model of this series a while back. They produced 4030 and 4031. This of course was an HO model. I have 4031 and I have to say if you just want it as a display model it would be fine, but these ran into some big problems. The gears messed up on some of them and disassembly and getting parts was a problem and then there was also the issue of wires breaking off inside. Both of the pickup wires broke on mine so I tried to make tender pickups, but that failed miserably. Now it sets there. I think you would be better off starting with another model. I'm not a steam expert so I will let someone with more knowledge fill you in on a model that would make a good starting point.

    Ethan
     
  3. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Thanks Ethan
    I took photos of this, but don't know how to get them on here
    I can email them to someone if they want to see
    William Jackson
    macon249@yahoo.com
     
  4. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    4136 was a heavy mikado and was from the "middle" series of 4100s, 4135-4149 and was built concurrently with the 4-8-2 series 1515-1519 and used many interchangeable parts, such as stacks, domes, cab and tender among others. You can't get there by starting with a light 2-8-2 such as the Athearn Genesis. The boiler is too small. If you want to approximate one of them in plastic, you should probably start with a BLI USRA heavy 2-8-2 bearing in mind you will need to change the cab, domes and add air reservoirs on top of the boiler and change the running board configuration and find a Santa Fe 12 wheel tender. It would be a good project and teach you a lot about building, detailing and following a prototype.
    Here is a shot of the 4135.
     

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  5. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Thanks Frisco 1522
    It sounds like a lot, but worth the try for me.
    Gives me something interesting to work on
    Bill Jackson
     
  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    During the late twenties and very early thirties, the 4136 worked from Springfield to Newburg, from Springfield to Thayer, and from Ft Scott to Afton, from Ft Scott to KC and from Ft Scott to Springfield. It appears that it made trips between Amory and East Thomas. It might be safe to interpolate that it spent much of its time handling freights between KC and Afton and KC and Birmingham. Strangely it shows up on freights working toward Texas out of West Tulsa.
     
  7. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Karl, thanks for your input. The photo that I have is 8/26, so that makes a lot of since. It's of the North shop Springfield. 4136 is on the Turntable. I recall my grandmother telling me that grandpa used to get called when they had trouble, he used to catch the train to Newberg to work on the engines. He was a Boilermaker.
    Thanks
    Bill Jackson
     
  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Don, is the photo of 4135 at Rosedale?

    Best Regards,
     
  9. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Ok folks I give!
    How do you put photos on here
    Bill Jackson
     
  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

  11. William Jackson

    William Jackson Bill Jackson

    Well no luck so far on the photo's
    Maybe you can not use an I phone
    I was not using a computer.
    Bill Jackson
     
  12. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    4135 neg isn't identified, but certainly looks like Rosedale.
     
  13. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    There's just a tease of a vintage passenger car in the photo (Left of the engine). Looks like it was being used as srorage or an office.

    Tom
     
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  14. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Bill forwarded these images to me for posting.
     

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