GP-7 Details (need help)

Discussion in 'Modeling Tips' started by Sirfoldalot, Jun 9, 2009.

  1. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Can someone tell me what these are?
     

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  2. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Those are MU Electrical connectors.
     
  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Bob is absolutely correct! For the unitiated, they are Multiple Unit connectors to which cables connect from one locomotive to another and will allow one locomotive's cab operating controls to control the other locomotives to which it is connected (a consist).
     
  4. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    OK .. I'll buy that. :cool: NOW, what are all the hoses for? Usually 6-8 on each end? I thought they were mu connections? :confused:
     
  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Main Reservoir Equalizing Hose
    Actuating Hose
    Brake Cylinder Hose
    Sanding Pipe
     
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  6. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    The multiple unit (MU) electrical receptacles were "high mounted" on the GP-7s to help facilitate electrical connections with car body units.

    Most early full width car body units (F-3, F-7, FP-7, F-9, E-7, E-8, FA and FB units) had high mounted MU electrical receptacles. On these units the receptacles were near the nose headlight on A units, typically covered with a small door, on the front and near or above the top of the door at the rear and on B units.

    This permitted the use of a shorter "standard" length of MU jumper cable to connect any combination of unit types.

    More modern units standardized with low mounted MU stands just above the end walkways. Today almost all units have the MU receptacles mounted in the front pilot below the end walkways.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
  7. bob_wintle

    bob_wintle Member Frisco.org Supporter

    This thread is a perfect example of what is so great about Frisco.org. Thanks guys collectively your the best!
    Bob Wintle
    Parsons, Ks.
     
  8. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Way to go BOBO :) very true.
    I now have more questions ....

    Main Reservoir Equalizing Hose ?? (holding tank or what?)
    Actuating Hose ?? (for actuating what?)
    Brake Cylinder Hose (maybe smart enough to figure this out)
    Sanding Pipe ( really??)
     
  9. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

  10. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    No MU's on 747's :D
     
  11. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Sherrel, I think your head is in the clouds! LOL

    At least your feet are still on the ground.
     
  12. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith .. Comes from breathing to much thin air. :D
     
  13. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    In the same manner that the electrical "jumper cable" combines the electric functions of each unit into one locomotive, the Main Reservoir Equalizing Hose, the Actuating Hose, and the Brake Cylinder Hose combines the air brake components of each unit into a single system.

    The pneumatic sand pipe(s) combined to make the sanders of each unit function as one. There are two sand lines on each unit, one forward and one reverse. They are connected so the the leading sander on each unit is controlled from the lead unit. Some locomotive sanders are controlled through the electric MU Jumper cables.

    The Main Reservoir Equalizing Hose combines the (generally two) main reservoirs on each unit and and the air compressor on each unit into a single system. See the attachment which was taken from the Frisco's "Train Handling Rules & Instructions for Controlled Train Dynamics".

    The Actuating Line is pressurized when the independent brake is baled-off. (the engine brakes are released while maintaining a set in the train.)

    The Brake Cylinder Hose is pressurized according to the amount of braking applied to the independent (locomotive) brakes.

    The air brake schedule of the locomotive detemines the number of these MU hoses. Some roads had ten or more hoses for a duplex set-up. This feature allowed units with a 24RL or 26L to mate with a units that had a 14EL, 6SL, or 6 BL schedule


     

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  14. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl ... thanks very much. That is a really good diagram. I am gonna enlarge the diagram and print it out. Jessez, I had no idea that the braking system and air lines were that involved, even down to the sanders. All U guys .. thanku, thanku very much .. unnn-huh!
     
  15. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

  16. RogerRT

    RogerRT Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    A+ Karl!

     
  17. geep07

    geep07 Member

    These are MU (Multiple Units) receptacles, or connections.
     
  18. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Superb explanations, gentlemen. In spite of my internal-combustion aversion I read through and learned quite a bit. A good team effort.

    Best Regards,
     
  19. Damon

    Damon Member

    Painted over Ditch lights or masked over for painting, your right there connections.


    Damon
     
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