Tower Grove Interlock, St Louis

Discussion in 'Interlocking Towers & Facilities' started by klrwhizkid, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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  2. pensive

    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

    UP dismantled the Oak Hill Branch a few years ago, so this interlock no longer exists. Both the Frisco and Missouri Pacific stations nearby were razed long ago when the bridge over the tracks was rebuilt. Three streets intersect on top of the bridge.

    Rich
     
  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith, neat link! My jaw nearly dropped at the sight of a heavyweight "Texas Special" observation car with what appears to be shadowline "fluting." Does anyone know if this was an MKT or Frisco car?

    Best Regards,
     
  4. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The Texas Special car pic is one of the many great photos from the late Jim Ozment.

    I believe it is a MKT car - Tom Galbreath would know for sure.

    Ken
     
  5. gstout

    gstout Member Frisco.org Supporter

    It is an MKT car named Edwin W. Moore (car #496). It ran in the third TEXAS SPECIAL consist because there were only two lightweight observation cars (Katy's #1400, Stephen F. Austin and Frisco's #1350, Joseph Pulitzer). Rather than order a third car Edwin W. Moore was rebuilt from the 1937-built William B. Travis, which is generally thought to be the last heavyweight lounge car constructed in the U.S. It was painted in red and silver with shadowline "fluting" to match the rest of the train. This car and the two lightweight observation cars were withdrawn from service at the end of 1958 when the TEXAS SPECIAL was gradually being downgraded. As the photo indicates, despite the attempt on the part of the Katy to dress the car up, it really didn't match very well.

    Greg Stout
     
  6. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken and Greg, thanks for the clarification and the history. I suspected that it had been a Frisco car, I would have surely seen or heard of it at some point in the past.

    Best Regards,
     
  7. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Greg is correct - it really didn't match up with the rest of the Texas Special train set very well, but I'll bet it provided a fun ride down the Frisco to meet Katy rails at Vinita!

    Sure wish we could find a pic of the Edwin W. Moore sitting at Newburg during the TS's stop there.

    Ken
     
  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    The more I look at the photos of this interlocking plant, the more I think of how this would be a perfect Layout Design Element for modeling a visible junction but making tracks disappear without using an inappropriately-placed tunnel portal. The urban buildings, the low earth cut and the street overhead; they all remind me of a Model Railroad Planning cover story (maybe 1997) on how to make tracks that head "over there" disappear from modeled scenes more gracefully.

    Best Regards,
     
  9. CHKmoundcity

    CHKmoundcity Member

    Has anyone come across a plan for Tower Grove tower?

    Tom P
    Gainesville VA
     
  10. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom, I'm familiar with one around here. Wonder if the TRRA Hist. Society would, by chance, have drawings or info?

    Best Regards,
     
  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I don't recall if Tower Grove was included, but there was an excellent TRRA HS annual bulletin several years ago covering all the St Louis area towers, both past and present. I think it was the issue right before the Texas Special issue, if I recall correctly. I have all of them here, but they are buried in a box so I can't yet look it up for you.

    K
     
  12. gstout

    gstout Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The TRRA publication (Summer 2008) has a schematic for the interlocking, but not for the tower building itself.

    GS
     

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