Howdy, Jerome Lutzenburger created a spreadsheet with sources for model Frisco equipment. I've converted it to a table format, for easy viewing here. Please send your changes and ideas to Jerome and between the two of us, we'll keep it updated. Thanks a ton Jerome, great job. Best regards, mike
Table of Freight Equipment sources - Jerome Lutzenburger Jerome Lutzenburger's table of freight equipement. Click the column headings to sort the list by the column. ~mike [table="head"]Manufacturer | Scale | Description | Item # | Road # | Source | Discontinued | Accuracy | Links | Notes A-C Railway Models || USRA 40ft Box | XM5 | 127247 | Ebay | X | | | Rare Accurail | | 40' Steel Plug Door Box Car | 3106 | 52168 Accurail | | USRA 50T Hopper | 2507 | 88120 | | | | Accurail | | USRA 50T Panel Side Twin Hopper | 2806 | | | | | | Accurail | | 40' Plug Door Box | 2807 | | | | | | Accurail | | 40' PS1 Box | 3433 | | | | | | Accurail | | 40' Steel AAR Box | 3544 | | | | | | Accurail | | 40' Dbl. Door Box | 3608 | | | | | | Accurail | | 41' Gondola | 3729 | | | | | | Accurail | | 40' Out Side Braced Wood Box | 4318 | | | | | | Wood Doors & Metal Ends Accurail | | 40' USRA Double Sheath W. Box | 4615 | | | | | | Accurail | | 40' Wood Stock Car | 4709 | | | | | | Accurail | | 50' Riveted Side Plug Door Box | 5109 | | | | | | Accurail | | 50' Exterior-Post Modern Box | 5607 | | | | | | Accurail | | 50' Welded Plug Door Box | 5808 | | | | | | Accurail | | 40' 6-Panel Outside Braced Box | 7108 | | | | | | Dreadnaught Ends Accurail | | 40' 6-Panel Single Sheath Wood Box | 7203 | | | | | | Wood Doors & Steel Ends New Body Style Accurail | | 40' PS1 Box Car | 93433 | 17784 | | | | | Accuready Accurail | | Wide Vision Caboose | 265-2 | 1242 AHM | | Pulpwood Rack | 5392C | 5678 | Ebay | | | | AHM | | Flex Flow Hopper | 5427G | | Ebay | | | | AHM | | Extended Vision Caboose | 5485L | 1274 | Ebay | | | | Made by Roco Ambroid | | | | | | | | | Out of Business AMB | | Wood Cupola Caboose | 863 | | | | | | American Model Builders Laser Kit Athearn | | 60' Flat | ATH819491,2 | | | | | | Lumber Load - Available 9/09 Athearn | | Cupola Caboose | ATH74189, 90 | 1115, 1138 | | | | | Available 06/09 Athearn | | Cupola Caboose | ATH74173, 4 | 1145,47,80 | | | | | Athearn | | Cupola Caboose | ATH7408 | | | X | | | Athearn | | Wide Vision Caboose | ATH7511 | 1240 | | X | | | Blue Athearn | | PCF Rib Side Box | ATH88907, 8 | | | | | | Athearn | | Smooth Plug Door Box | ATH70767, 8 | "8619, 23 | | | | | Athearn | | Heavy Duty Flat | ATH92146 | 3901 | | | | | With load Athearn | | "65' 6"" Mill Gondola" | ATH93652 | 70227 | | X | | | With Pole Load Athearn | | "65' 6"" Mill Gondola" | ATH93651 | 70065 | | X | | | Athearn | | 34' Offset Side Hopper | ATH70827 | | | X | | | 6 different road #'s Athearn | | 34' Offset Side Hopper | ATH91197 | | | X | | | 6 different road #'s Athearn | | 60' PS Auto Box | ATHG45241, 51 | 9003, 24 | | X | | | Late/Weathered Athearn | | 60' PS Auto Box | ATHG4508, 09 | 9008, 16 | | X | | | Early Athearn | | PSC Covered Hopper | ATH93722, 23, 24 | 82300, 45, 47 | | X | | | Athearn | | 50' PS 5277 Box | ATH92895, 96 | 44024, 155 | | X | | | Athearn | | 60' PS Auto Box | ATH4524, 25 | 9003, 24 | | X | | | Athearn | | 52' Mill Gondola | ATH92810 | 65170 | | X | | | With Scrap Load Athearn | | 52' Mill Gondola | ATH92809 | 65159 | | X | | | With Coil Load Athearn | | 60' Flat | ATH92675, 76 | 3802, 05 | | X | | | Athearn | | 40' Express Box | ATH92255, 56 | 466,7,8 | | X | | | Athearn | | Pulpwood Flat | ATH91457, 8 | | | X | | | Athearn | | 50' PC&F Ext. Post Box | ATHG4333, 34 | | | X | | | 10' 6" Door Athearn | | 50' Gondola | ATH91434 | | | X | | | With Load Athearn | | One Dome Tank | ATH7300 | 191020 | | X | | | Athearn | | 50' High Cube Plug Box | ATH233778 | | | X | | | Kit Athearn | | 50' High Cube Waffle Box | ATH23404 | | | X | | | Kit Athearn | | 50' Plug Door Box | ATH5265 | | | X | | | Kit Athearn | | 50' ACF Outside Braced Railbox | ATH5532 | | | X | | | Kit Athearn | | 2-Bay Offset Hopper | ATH5404 | 91777 | | X | | | Kit Athearn | | Wide Vision Caboose | ATH5375 | | | X | | | Kit Athearn | | 40' Box | |17435 | | X | | | Kit Atlas | | Extended-Vision Caboose | 6210-1,2 | 1277, 1280 | | | | | Red & White Atlas | | Extended-Vision Caboose | 1996-1,2,3,4 | 252, 257 | | | | | 1288, 1291 Brown Atlas | | Trainman C&O Style Caboose | 1123-1,2 | 162, 163 | | | | | Brown Atlas | | 6 Bay Cylindrical Hopper | 1968-1,2 | 81008,19 | | | | | Atlas | | Trainman PS-2 Cov. Hopper | 1700-3,4 | 84032,44 | | | | | Atlas | | Pulpwood Flat | 1608-1,2,3 | 4304,10, 26 | | | | | Atlas | | Trainman 2-bay Offset Side Hopper | 1890-9,10 | 90690,05 | | | | | Atlas | | ACF 50' Box | 1352-1 ,2 | 42044, 470 | | | | | Precision Design Bachmann | | 50' Plug Door Box | 18025 | 15034 | | | | | Bev-Bel | | 40' Steel Boxcar | 1013, 1 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 40' Steel Boxcar | 1080-1, 2, 3 | 128207 | | X | | | Cream with FFF in red Bev-Bel | | 40' Steel Boxcar | 1097 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 40' Steel Boxcar | 1142 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 40' Steel Boxcar | 1157 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 32' 2-Bay Hopper | 1319 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 42' Chemical Tank Car | 1347 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 40' Steel Boxcar | 1428 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 50' Plug Door Box | 1701 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 50' Open Steel Gondola | 19010, 1 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 29' Wide Vision Caboose | 2246, 1, 2 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 50' Smooth Side Plug Door Box | 2333, 1 | 8213 | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 29' Wide Vision Caboose | 265, 1, 2, 3 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 54' PS Ribside Covered Hopper | 271, 1 | 16324 | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 40' Steel Boxcar | 463, 2, 3 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 50' Express Reefer | 4914, 1 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 70' Standard Clerestory Roof Coach | 5373 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | Streamlined Baggage Car | 5980 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | Streamline Diner Car | 5982 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | Streamlined Coach Car | 5983 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | Streamline Coach Car | 5986 | | | X | | | Bev-Bel | | 2-Bay Hopper | 799 | | | X | | | Three Pack Bev-Bel | | 50' Steel Single Door Box | 9939, 1, 2 | | | X | | | Bowser (Kits) | | 100 T. 45' Triple Hopper | 1-55110 | 87851 | | | | | 2nd run Bowser (Kits) | | 70-T. 2-Bay Open Side Covered Hop | 55828 | | | | | | Gray Bowser (Kits) | | 70-T. 2-Bay Open Side Covered Hop | 55863 | | | | | | Gray, Small Coonskin-12 different #'s Bowser (Kits) | | 70-T. 2-Bay Open Side Covered Hop | 56514, 15, 16 | 82927, 46, 51 | | | | | Black, Small Coonskin - #55637 Sold Out Bowser (Kits) | | 40' Box | 3-1041 | 51261 | | | | | Coonskin with FFF Branchline | | | | | | | | | Blueprint Kits | | 50' GRAX Plug Door | 1802 | | | | | | #18023 Three Pack Blueprint Kits | | QAP GRAX Plug Door | 1809 | | | | | | #18093 Three Pack Yardmaster Kits | | 1937 AAR 40' Box | 8046 | 140012 | | | | | #80463 Three Pack Yardmaster Kits | | 40' Box Express Car | 8016 | 149194 | | | | | Broadway Limited | | Stock Car | 1354 | 47425 | | | | | W/Chicken Sounds BLI also has Cattle/Hog Sound Broadway Limited | | General American Wood Express Ref | 1459 | | | | | | Paragon Series Broadway Limited | | General American Wood Express Ref | 1484 | | | | | | Paragon Series Two car set. Concor | | Streamline Coach | 1-70104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline Dome | 1-71104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline Diner | 1-72104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline Observation | 1-73104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline 70' Baggage | 1-74104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline Slumber Coach | 1-75104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline Dome/Obs | 1-77104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline Budd Dome | 1-78104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Concor | | Streamline Pullman 10/6 | 1-79104 | | | | | | Frisco-Texas Special Cox | | Hopper Car | 6130-4 | 87515 | Ebay | X | | | E&C Shops | | 52' 6" Mill Gondola | 530 | 65736,600 | Ebay | X | | | Out of Business Front Range | | 40' Box Car | | 28521 | Ebay | X | | | Out of Business Funro & Camerlengo | | USRA DS Short Steel Rebuilt Car | 6160 | | | | | | Kit-FFF Multicolor Hallmark Brass | | Baggage Caboose | | | Ebay | X | | | Hallmark Brass | | LW Streamline Passengers Cars | | | Ebay | X | | | Corrugated Pass Cars W/O Lettering IHC | | Streamline Passenger Baggage | 47720 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Passenger Coach | 47721 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Passenger Diner | 47722 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Passenger Observation | 47723 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Passenger Combine | 47724 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Passenger RPO | 47725 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Passenger Duplex Sleeper | 47726 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Vista Dome | 47727 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline 8 Car Set | 47728 | | | | | | Texas Special IHC | | Streamline Passenger Baggage | 47870 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline Passenger Coach | 47871 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline Passenger Diner | 47872 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline Passenger Observation | 47873 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline Passenger Combine | 47874 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline Passenger RPO | 47875 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline Passenger Duplex Sleeper | 47876 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline Vista Dome | 47877 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | Streamline 8 Car Set | 47878 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | HW Passenger Baggage | 49260 | | | | | | Frisco IHC | | HW Passenger Coach | 49261 | | | | | | Firefly IHC | | HW Passenger Combine | 49263 | | | | | | Firefly IHC | | HW Passenger Diner | 49263 | | | | | | Firefly IHC | | HW Passenger Observation | 49264 | | | | | | Firefly IHC | | HW Passenger Baggage | 49265 | | | | | | Firefly IHC | | HW Passenger Sleeper | 49266 | | | | | | Firefly 8-1-2 IHC | | HW Passenger Sleeper | 49267 | | | | | | Firefly 12-1 IHC | | HW 8 car Set | 49268 | | | | | | IHC | | 62' Auto Box | 462 | 9140 | | | | | IHC | | Open Hopper Car | | 90378 | | | | | IHC | | 50' Combination Door Steel Box | | 72280 | | | | | Intermountain | | 4750 Cubic Ft. Rib-Sided 3-bay CH | 45322 | | | | | | Six Car #'s Intermountain | | 1958 Cu. Ft. 2-Bay Hopper | 48609 | | | | | | Six Car #'s Intermountain | | P-S 5277 Cubic Ft. Exterior Post Box | 47505 | | | | | | Six Car #'s Intermountain | | USRA Composite Drop Bottom Gondola | YY41103FS | | | | | | Six Car #'s Intermountain | | USRA 2-Bay Open Hopper | T452915-01 | | | | | | Six Car #s Intermountain | | 42 Ft. Flat Car | | | | | | | Four Car #s Red Caboose Kits-Sold by TWMRC Intermountain | | 42 Ft. Flat Car | | | | | | | Four Car #s Red Caboose RTR-Sold by TWMRC Intermountain | | ACF Centerflow Hoppers (2-Bay) | | 78736,12,641 Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5102 | 17547 | | | | | FFF Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5110 | 17315 | | | | | FFF Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5113 | 17554 | | | | | FFF Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5117 | 17439 | | | | | FFF Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5118 | 17700 | | | | | FFF Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5119 | 17691 | | | | | FFF Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5206 | 18299 | | | | | Frisco Coon Skin Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5235 | 18104 | | | | | Frisco Coon Skin Kadee | | 40' PS-1 Box | 5254 | 19073 | | | | | Frisco Coon Skin Kadee | | 50' PS-1 Box | 6002 | 7566 | | | | | Frisco Coon Skin Kadee | | 50' PS-1 Box | 6007 | 7600 | | | | | Frisco Coon Skin Kadee | | 50' PS-1 Box | 6011 | 7128 | | | | | Frisco Coon Skin Kadee | | 50' PS-1 Box | 6012 | 7650 | | | | | Frisco Coon Skin Kadee | | PS-2 Two Bay Covered Hopper | 8012 | 84084 | | | | | Gray Kadee | | PS-2 Two Bay Covered Hopper | 8030 | 84009 | | | | | Gray LaBelle | | | | | | | | | None Life Like | | 40' Steel Box | 8538 | 16037 | Ebay | X | | | Blue lettering, White background-Norge Frosty Flam Life Like | | Flat | | | Ebay | | | | Life Like | | Flat With Auto Rack & Autos | | | Ebay | | | | ????? Lionel | | Reefer | | 78543 | Ebay | X | | | Light Tan Lionel | | Texas Special | 5661 | | Ebay | X | | | Engine Lionel | | Texas Special | 7041 | | Ebay | X | | | RPO Car Lionel | | Texas Special | 7051 | | Ebay | X | | | Coach Lionel | | Texas Special | 7061 | | Ebay | X | | | Dome Lionel | | Texas Special | 7071 | | Ebay | X | | | Observation Mantua | | 41' Steel Box Car | 734012 | 129802 | Ebay | X | | | Cream With Red Lettering Sliding Doors FFF Mantua | | Open Top Hopper | 829-012 | 91648 | Ebay | X | | | Coal Load Mantua | | Center Cupola | | 286 | Ebay | X | | | Red Marker Light Model | | Box Car | 709 | 7890 | | | | | Wood Kit - Ship It on The Frisco Main Line Models | | Stock Car | | | Ebay | X | | | Rare Main Line Models | | Box Car | | | Ebay | X | | | Rare Model Power | | 36' 2 Bay Open Hopper | 98062 | | Ebay | X | | | Model Power | | 40' Flat Car w/Guard Rails | 98230 | | Ebay | X | | | Overland Brass | | Caboose | "1128, 09" | | Ebay | X | | | JP Models Wood Cupola Overland Brass | | Caboose | 1118 | | Ebay | X | | | Ajin Wide Vision Caboose Overland Brass | | Caboose | 3907 | | Ebay | X | | | Ajin Wide Vision Caboose Overland Brass | | Caboose | 4234.1 | 1114, 1256 | Ebay | X | | | Ajin Wide Vision Caboose F/P Red Overland Brass | | Covered Hopper | 3039.12 | | Ebay | X | | | Ajin Custom Painted Cylindrical Covered Hopper Overland Brass | | 2-Bay Hopper | 3128 | | Ebay | X | | | MS Un Painted 2-Bay Hopper Overland Brass | | 2-Bay Hopper Covered | 3129 | | Ebay | X | | | MS Un Painted 2-Bay Hopper Covered Overland Brass | | 2-Bay Open Top Hopper | 3128.1 | | Ebay | X | | | MS Custom Painted Two Bay Hopper Open Overland Brass | | Tank Car | | | | | | | Overland Brass | | SLSF Texas Special Streamline | AJ-1003 | | | X | | | Ajin Two E7's and six cars Overland Brass | | Frisco Meteor Streamline | AJ-1004 | | | X | | | Ajin Two E7's and six cars Overland Brass | | Frisco Meteor Streamline | AJ-1005 | | | X | | | Ajin Two E7's and six cars Overland Brass | | LW Sleeper Streamline | 1065 | | | X | | | Texas Special 1455 Overland Brass | | LW Sleeper Streamline | 1066 | | | X | | | Meteor 1462 Proto 1000 | | 100-Ton Three Bay Open Top Hopper | 237011 | "88245, 6" | | | | | Limited Run Two-Pack Proto 1000 | | 100-Ton Three Bay Open Top Hopper | 37011 | 88228 | | | | | Proto 1000 | | USRA Ton Drop Bottom Gondola | 37053 | 85825 | | | | | Composite Proto 1000 | | USRA Ton Drop Bottom Gondola | 237053 | 85851, 99 | | | | | Composite Two Pack Proto 2000 | | 52' Drop End Mill Gondola | 21458, 9 | 61873, 672 | | | | | Proto 2000 | | 4427 PS-2CD High Side CH | 23388, 9 | 9000,12 38,52 | | | | | Proto 2000 | | 52' Drop End Mill Gondola | 54123 | 61436 | | | | | Ductwork Load Proto 2000 | | 52' Drop End Mill Gondola | 54124 | 61525 | | | | | Large Gears Load Red Caboose | | 100 Ton Evans Coil Car | 32536 | | | | | | Nine Different Road Numbers Assembled Red Caboose | | 10,000 Gal tank Car | 33043 | 191001 | | | | | Kit Red Caboose | | 42' 10" Flat Car | 323??? | | | | | | Red Kit Red Caboose | | 1937 AAR 40' Box | RC-8027 | | | | | | Kit Revell | | Flat Car | 4140 | 4140 | Ebay | X | | | Yellow Flat With Reels of Cable for a Load Rivarossi | | Streamlined Passenger Cars | | | Ebay | X | | | Roco | | 4-Bay Covered Hopper | | 15705 | Ebay | X | | | Yellow-Ship It On The Frisco Rollins Rails | | Greenville 60' DD Box | | 89025 | Ebay | X | | | Ship-It On The Frisco Roundhouse | | 50' Plug Door Box | 1268 | 12122 | | | | | Roundhouse | | 40' Modern Box | 87109 | 21028 | | | | | RTR Roundhouse | | 50' PS Rib Side Box | 1901 | 44270 | | | | | Roundhouse | | 50' GARX Box | | 1234 | | | | | Kit Roundhouse | | 40' Box | | 1074 | | | | | Kit Roundhouse | | Old Time Wood Box | 84240, 239 | 118, 15 | | | | | QA&P RTR Roundhouse | | 50'Gondola | | 66000 | | | | | Kit Roundhouse | | 40' 70 Ton Hopper | | | | | | | Numerous Numbers Roundhouse | | 40' Truss Side Box Car | B-3111 | 126878 | Ebay | X | | | Meal Kit-Prepainted Sides Roundhouse | | 60' Flat Car | 1288 |3803 | Ebay | | | | Kit Silver Streak | | Caboose | ss114 | 853 | Ebay | X | | | Kit Silver Streak | | 40' Box Car | s213-299,345 | 120053,57 | Ebay | X | | | Kit Sunshine | | GA 53' Wood Side & End Express Ref | 27.4 | | | | | | Resin Kit Sunshine | | 127000-130499 USRA Rebuild Box | 64.3, 4, 5, 6 | | | | | | Resin Kit Sunshine | | 127000-130499 USRA Rebuild Box | 4.1, 2 | | | X | | | Resin Kit Discontinued - Very early kit 4.1, 2 Sunshine | | 145550 Series Single Sheathed Box | 65.3, 4, 5, 6 | | | | | | Resin Kit Sunshine | | 147000-149499, 1600-16399 Box | 39.1, 2, 3 | | | | | | Resin Kit - Narrow Board IH Howe Truss Sunshine | | 150000-151285 Series Box | 80.9, 10, 11, 12 | | | | | | Resin Kit - Tall Single Sheathed Sunshine | | 150000-151285 Series Box | 80.10, 11, 12, 15, 16 | | | | | | Resin Kit - Tall Double Door Single Sheathed Sunshine | | 154000 Series 40' Double Door Auto | | | | X | | | Resin Kit Discontinued Sunshine | | 161500 (32000) Series Howe Box | 39.4, 5 | | | | | | Resin Kit - Steel Side Howe Truss Rebuild Sunshine | | 85000-85999 Series USRA Gondola | 12.1, 2 | | | X | | | Resin Kit - Panel-side rebuilt Gondola Discontinued Sunshine | | 95300-95799 Series 42' Flatcar | | | | | | | Resin Kit - ??? Sunshine | | 47200-47699 Series Stockcars | 65.7, 8 | | | | | | Resin Kit - Rebuilt Stockcars Sunshine | | 47700 Series Stockcars | | | | | | | Resin Kit - ??? Tangent | | PS-2CD 4000 Covered Hopper | 1052201,02.03 | 81101,17,24 | | | | | Orginal Gray Train Masters | | 50 Ton Wood Outside Braced Box | 2153 | 126873 | Ebay | X | | | Train Miniatures | | 40 A.R.A.wood sheathed box car | 2003 | | Ebay | X | | | Bought by Walthers in 1985 Train Miniatures | | Frisco Fast Freight 40' Box | 8065 | 127608 | Ebay | X | | | Cream With Red Lettering Train Miniatures | | 40' Plug Door Box | 3219 | | Ebay | X | | | Train Miniatures | | Braced End Wood Stock Car | 3357 | 33806 | Ebay | X | | | | Kit Train Miniatures | | 40' Plug Door Box | 3219 | 163804 | Ebay | X | | | | Kit Tyco | | Auto Loader | 349a-450 | 2530 | Ebay | X | | | Auto Loader Trailer Train with 6 cars (Red Box) Tyco | | Caboose | | 1776 | Ebay | X | | | "Spirit of 76 - Red, White, and Blue (Brown Box)" Ulrich | | Offset Side O/T Hopper | OH5 335 | 90883 | Ebay | X | | | Oxide-Kit Ulrich | | Outside Braced 40' Box Car | | 126887 | Ebay | X | | | Basswood Parts Union Station Prod | | Observation | 4121 | | | | | | PS Fluted Side 2 Double Bedroom/1 Drawing Room/B/L/O(Side Only) Union Station Prod | | Sleeper | 4153 | | | | | | 4 Roomette-4 Bedroom PS Fluted Side Sleeper(Side Only) Union Station Prod | | Baggage | 7536 | | | | | |Baggage Mail PS Fluted Side, Tx Sp and General Service(Side Only) Union Station Prod | | 56 Seat Coach | 7537 | | | | | | 56 Seat PS Fluted Side Coach, Tx Sp and General Service(Side Only) Union Station Prod | | Buffet-Lounge-Coach | 7539 | | | | | | Buffet-Lounge-Coach PS Fluted Side, Tx Sp and General Service(Side Only) Union Station Prod | | 36 Seat PS Diner | 7540 | | | | | | 36 Seat PS Diner, Fluted Side, Texas Special(Side Only) Union Station Prod | | 36 Seat Coach/Dormitory | 7542 | | | | | | PS Fluted Side 34 Seat Coach/Dormitory(Side Only) Varney | | Flat Car | 2801s/2801k | | Ebay | X | | | Assembled or Kit Varney | | Frisco-Norge | 2669f/2669k | | Ebay | X | | | Assembled or Kit Varney | | Box Car Double Door | 2668fr | | Ebay | X | | | Varney | | 40' Outside Bracing Box | B18 | | Ebay | X | | | 1941 Catalogue Varney | | 40' Box | B70 | | Ebay | X | | | FFF-Box Car Red (Yellow Box) Walthers | | Tri-Level Enclosed Auto Carrier | 932-4871 | | | | | | Gold Line (Train Miniatures) Walthers | | 50' GACX Wood Express Reefer | 5474 | | | | | | Pullman Trucks-Ready to Run Walthers | | 50' GACX Wood Express Reefer | 25474 | | | | | | Two Pack Westerfield | | USRA DS Box Modernized | 3860 | | | | | | Resin Kit - One Piece Body Westerfield | | USRA DS Box | 3810 | | | | | | Resin Kit - One Piece Body Westerfield | | Inside Stake 36' Coal Gondola | 10604 | | | | | | Resin Kit Westerfield | | Sawtooth Box | 11201 | | | | | | Resin Kit Westerfield | | Sawtooth Box Modernized | 11251 | | | | | | Resin Kit [/table]
Mike - We need to add Westerfield #3860, SLSF USRA modernized DS boxcar, one piece body. Ken Done - mac
I dont know if this is the correct thread or not. If it isn't the moderator can move it. I have a Branchline Trains Yardmaster Series Frisco express box in green with gold lettering. I know it needs the steam and signal lines. Cal scale use to make a plastic set but I cant find them. Are they still available? If not who has them? Are the trucks correct for this car? They seam to be a standard freight truck. Should they be a high speed truck? What trains were these used on? Yardmaster: Were these used on the River Division? A side note: As many of us are now admitting to railfanning the River Division between Cape and Chaffee how did we keep from tripping over each other? Thanks River Hills Travler
Dwain - There is a good b/w pic of SLSF 149194 on page 29 of Pat Wider/Ed Hawkins' RP CYC book, Volume 6. This was one of the ten Frisco 1937 AAR 10ftH, 40ft box cars converted into BX express cars at Springfield in 1942. SLSF 149194 is one of the numbers modeled by Branchline. The others Frisco converted were SLSF 127542, 130413, 147632, 148034, 148413, 148591, 160774, 161465 & 161702, per RP CYC. Branchline offered their HO car kit in several of these other SLSF numbers as well. I don't know what specific trains these cars were used on - others in the group will know, I'm sure. I'd guess they were used system wide on the name trains. The Branchline HO kit is decorated well, with the correct door (6ft Youngstown), the correct brake wheel (Ajax), and the correct wood roof running board. The trucks, however, are totally wrong for the as-built car - they were mounted on Allied Full Cushion high-speed trucks. Later in the life of these cars, the Allied truck was likely replaced as they fell out of favor due to high maintenance and poor tracking. The car then probably rode on a standard "Bettendorf" type truck like the one Branchline supplied with the kit. (Frisco's favorite was the ASF A3 Ride Control truck, but they also used the Barber S2 and others). The Cal-Scale passenger car air & steam line set is part number AH-275. Last time I checked, these were still available. I mounted these on all my passenger cars years ago, but shortly later had to remove them, as they hung up with each other on my tight curves. The Allied Full Cushion truck is available in low-cost kit form - Eastern Car Works #9043. It gives the Frisco BX car a unique look, though many roads also used this truck on BX cars during this period (ACL, C&O, C&EI, RI to name a few). The truck is/was also available in brass, but they cost a bunch of $$$. Ken
Allied Full Cushion trucks were introduced in the late 1930s. They were noted for providing a smoother ride than typical freight car trucks of the era. In addition to use under express boxcars, they were also extensively applied to World War II era troop sleepers and kitchen cars. After the war, the Frisco and other railroads converted former troop sleeper and kitchen cars to express cars that featured these trucks. However, the trucks started having tracking issues at speed that resulted in several derailments around the country. As a result, they were banned from interchange service in 1955. A few railroads did continue to use the trucks after 1955 on equipment that did not go off line in interchange service. In HO scale Allied Full Cushion trucks are also available from Bethlehem Car Works as part 1201 and from Walthers as part 1319. Please see the following link for a photo of the Walthers truck: http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-1319. For modelers in N scale the truck is available from Micro Trains as part 302121. Hope this helps. Thanks! Mark
Mark - Thanks for noting the availability of the Walthers Allied Full Cushion truck. I'd forgotten about that one - it's a better looking truck than the Eastern Car Works truck as it is more detailed and you can see through the openings. But, it costs $10 vs about $3. The Walthers truck looks real good under their WW2 Pullman troop sleepers. Ken
Jerome, many thanks for your work on this table! This will go a long way toward helping me assemble a good cross-section of era-appropriate rolling stock for my layout. Best Regards,
FWIW... Athearn also has Allied Full-Cushion trucks (currently in stock and avail. from Caboose Hobbies): http://www.caboosehobbies.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=4719
I have made some additions to the HO Frisco Equipment table. Although this is not a complete listing, it should help the modeler when looking for HO scale Frisco models. Any additions would be appreciated. Send them to me and I will add them to the list. Jerome
So is the list at the top a list of all models painted for SLSF regardless of whether they are fantasy or are they all good matches for real SLSF freight cars?
Hi, Jim - Hard to say for certain. I would guess that it's far from exhaustive, and I would also guess that certain manufacturer's products might deviate from the prototype in varying degrees. I also think that, for many modelers, it depends on what level of accuracy the individual desires. My personal experience - and this is limited to the Frisco forum here - is that most folks are grateful for any list of models with SL-SF reporting marks. Using that - and the above list - as a starting point: (a) Many modelers might just want something that says "Frisco," even if it is a product of someone's imagination and borders on the whimsical - in which case a list such as what Jerome put together above is helpful. (b) Many modelers want something to be as close to the prototype as possible, and will anguish over a correct road number but the fact that a given model has Murphy 7/7 ends when that particular class/number should have Dreadnaught 4/4 ends. Even if the modeler looks for "Option B" - and I personally aspire toward this as my ideal - I think the list above still saves a lot of initial research as to what products are available. And, when I'm not sure if it' an accurate item or not, I tend to lean on the individuals that participate here for further insight, knowledge and clarification. In summary, the list at the top: (1) is probably not a list of all the models, and (2) it very likely includes both fantasy models and good (in varying degree) matches for real SLSF freight cars. If a comprehensive list is desired by folks - including a breakdown of "is it prototypical or not" - I'll defer that to others. I have a challenging enough time actually building the backlog of models on my workbench! Best Regards,
Yes, YMMV. Back in the late 1980's, I bought anything painted for D&RGW, for example. Later I bought the Morning Sun Books Color guide and started comparing models to D&RGW freight car photo's and of course my eyes were opened. I expect there is a Color Guide for Frisco as well. I am aware that in the past 20 years, and with modelers and model manufacturers paying closer attention to fidelity, many have been weeding out the models which don't match any real freight cars and making an effort to stick, as much as possible to models which closely match real freight cars. Like many, I have a limited budget and have found with a little care, I can use all of my budget to buy fairly accurate models because there are quite a few on the market these days. I try to vet models before buying now and of course find it helpful whenever I can find information which helps me do that. I'm expect some Frisco modelers do the same and try to buy, wherever possible closely matching models for Frisco cars as well as typical freight cars in Frisco general merchandise trains so correct models for other railroads are probably important too. For example I've added MILW, ATSF, RI, MP and other Moloco box cars to my roster too since they are excellent matches to real freight cars. Anyway again as always YMMV of course Cheers, Jim Fitch