I was reading Greg Stout's post regarding a possibly Frisco In Color III and I was wondering what is the criteria for what makes a slide that is not your own ok to publish... Q1-I have several slides without the photographer's name, could these be published without copyright infringements? Q2-The photographer has put thier name on a slide but is deceased or I can't find them. Q3-What about duplicate slides? Q4-What about prints I took that have been digitally scanned? Maybe if we know what the rules are there could be a Vol. III... Roger
Regarding Frisco Vol 8 (I think we should do Vol 3 next, though), let me try to answer some of the questions raised by Roger. I will make up some names for the sake of illustration: Q1. In the case of a slide like that, the photo credit would read (Clark Hungerford Collection) Q2. Credit would read (Lou Menk, Clark Hungerford Collection) Q3. Duplicates are okay. We can color correct. Q4. Prints generally do not work. I would try to avoid them unless they are either really rare or really sharp, and in either case it would be better if the publisher did the scanning. The big thing about photos is who has the rights. If you buy a slide from an outfit like Al Chione or Trackside Slides, you do not have the rights to do anything other than look at them. You do not have publications rights of any sort. This applies even if you have purchased an original slide, unless you have something in writing granting publication rights. Normally commercial duplicates have a copyright stamp on them. The one exception is slides from a company called Evda. We can use those. Slides purchased on the internet can be trouble because very often the person selling them does not have rights, and, equally likely, the photographer does not know his slide is being sold (or copied). I ran into some of this working on Vol. 2. All this having been said, if we can get the material together, I can certainly persuade MSB to produce a Vol. 3, as the market is not nearly saturated.. Anyone willing to contribute to such an effort is invited to contact me via PM and we can try to figure out what we want to do. I can probably get my hands on about half as many as would be needed as we speak. The rest will have to come from other contributors. GS
Greg, Are there slides presently for sale that could be used for books in private collections, etc., that are unavailable unless someone purchases them? Charlie
I am not aware of any private slide collections (i.e., non-Chione, etc.) up for sale. I do have access to the Tribbey/McGee collection, but of course, they occupy a fairly narrow time band (early 1960s to mid-1970s or so). I have one or two other leads as well that I have not followed up on because I have been busy with another project (Milwaukee Road). I feel confident there are many others in the group who have slides, but for one reason or another do not choose to lend them out. In the past, their reluctance may have been rooted in part in the fact that Morning Sun de-mounted the slides prior to scanning, but they no longer do that, so the slides are now returned with the original mounts intact. The sad thing, and I run into this a lot, is that many slides are lost to posterity because, well, nobody lives forever, and often the inheritors of the estate do not want or know what to do with "these old slides Grandpa took," and so throw them away. The result is that no one will ever get to see them. Wouldn't it be better if at least some of everyone's work could find its way into print for others to enjoy? GS
