SLSF 3700's 0-6-0

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  1. art

    art Guest

    All these photos are from the collection of Bud Laws and are used by permission. Also, most of these images have written details about the particular locomotive. But I have misplaced the file that lists the details. I will revise these if I find the file. Art

    (Moderator: Photo taken at 19th St. Yard, Kansas City, MO. rrt)
     

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  2. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Note that the photo of 3747 appears to be at the Springfield Depot. Note the "Lipscomb" sign on the elevator in the background.

    Best Regards,
     
  3. Frisco1515

    Frisco1515 Frisco1515

    I remember as a youngster [ a long time ago!] the 3736 and the 3737 were in service at Ft. Scott.
     
  4. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    A question,
    Were these 2-6-0, 2-6-2, 2-6-4 or other wheel arrangements before they were 0-6-0 configurations? I would like to know what kind of switching locos these were. As far as what would they really pull, could they switch 100 cars at a time? They look like little brutes, small drivers, I bet they were just a wheel slip waiting to happen.
     
  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Tom,

    Please see:
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3708-3700-3712-0-6-0

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3709-3713-3722-0-6-0

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3711-3730-0-6-0

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3727-3731-3740-0-6-0

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3728-3741-3752-0-6-0


    All were built as 0-6-0's with TE that ranged from from about 28,000lbs to about 33,000, and depending upon grades and curvature that's 20-50 cars (at 40t/car), Their Factor of adhension ranged from 4.26-4.60, so they were very sure-footed critters.
     
  6. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl - How did they compare to the 3600's - in particular the SLSF 3671-3675 and SLSF 3676-3695? The 3695 is my favorite little critter - sold to Scullin Steel and sitting here at the NMOT since 1956. Unfortunately, it receives now no love and care it seems.

    Ken
     
  7. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl - How did they compare to the 3600's - in particular the SLSF 3671-3675 and SLSF 3676-3695? The 3695 is my favorite little critter - sold to Scullin Steel and sitting here at the NMOT since 1956. Unfortunately, it receives now no love and care it seems.

    Ken
     
  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Gee - We get a 2 for 1 posting bonus today!

    K
     
  9. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Gee - We get a 2 for 1 posting bonus today!

    K
     
  10. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    The 3500 series switchers were rebuilt from 4-6-0s.

    Brad Slone
     
  11. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken,


    Most of the locomotives from the 3600 series of 0-6-0’s ante-date the Memphis Road merger and the series is comprised of locomotives from several of the Frisco’s antecedent roads. Many of the locomotives in this series were sold or put to the torch before the 1920’s. The 3698 was a 0-4-0, and the 3699 was a 0-4-2; both were built for the BB Rwy as that road’s Number 5 and number 1, respectively.


    3600-3610, nee 600-610, nee 1600-1610, TE=12,300; No “modern” diagram.
    Disposition: Almost the entire class was removed from the roster during the Mass Extinction of 1914-1916


    3600, Scrp Apr 1915
    3601, Scrp July 1915
    3602, Rebuilt into a tank locomotive for use at Springfield North Shops
    3603, Scrp Sept 1914
    3604, Scrp Aug 1915
    3605, Scrp Feb 1915
    3606, Scrp Mar 1915
    3607, Scrp Oct 1914
    3608, Scrp Aug 1913
    3609, Scrp Oct 1913
    3610, Scrp June 1915


    3611-3614, nee 611-614, nee 1611-1614, TE=15,600; No “modern” diagram.
    Disposition: The entire class was removed from the roster during the Mass Extinction of 1914-1916.
    3611, Scrp Aug 1915
    3612, Scrp Apr 1916
    3613, Scrp July 1915
    3614, Scrp Aug 1915




    3615-3629, nee 615-629, nee 1615-1629; TE=15,000; FA=5.20; A very, very sure-footed group of 0-6-0’s
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3661-3629-0-6-0
    Disposition: Almost the entire class was removed from the roster during the Mass Extinction of 1914-1916
    3615, Scrp june 1915
    3616, Sold Sept 1910
    3617, Scrp july 1915
    3618, Scrp May 1916
    3619, Sold Apr 1916
    3620, Scrp June 1916
    3621, Scrp June 1916
    3622, Scrp July 1916
    3623, Scrp Aug 1915
    3624, Scrp May 1915
    3625, Scrp Aug 1915
    3626, Scrp June 1916
    3627, Scrp July 1915
    3628, Scrp Aug 1915
    3629. Scrp Unkn

    3630 StLM&SE number 10, No “modern” diagram, TE=11200; scrp June 1906
    3631, nee BB Rwy number 4; TE=16300; FA=5.02 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3662-3631-0-6-0

    3632-3633, nee 632-633, nee 1632-1633;
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3663-3632-0-6-0
    Sole locomotive left from a 2 locomotive class from the KCFS&M. Originally 632-633, the Frisco renumbered these into the 3632-3633 class
    3634 – 3635, nee 634-635, nee 1634-1635, TE=16,200

    3636-3639, nee 636-639, nee 1636-1639; TE=16,800; FA=4.88
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3669-3636-3639-0-6-0
    The Frisco lumped 4 Memphis Road locomotives from two separate orders (1897 & 1901) into a single class.
    3641-3647, nee 1-6, 15, nee 1641-1639; Built by the Frisco by three builders;
    3641, Baldwin, TE=16,500, Scrp Mar 1914
    3642, Baldwin, TE=16,500, Scrp Apr 1914
    3643, Rogers, TE=17,000, Scrp June 1916
    3644, Rogers, TE=17,000, Scrp May 1916
    3645, Rogers, TE=17,000, Scrp May 1916
    3646, Cooke, TE=16,800, Scrp May 1916
    3647

    3648-3657; TE=28200; FA=4.26
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3672-3648-3657-0-6-0


    3648, 3649, 3650, 3652 sold June 1916 NOT&M RR
    3651 retired May 1946
    3653 retired may 1946
    3654 Sold Dec 29 1944 to Hurden and Farmer OKC
    3655 retired April 1931
    3656-3657 sold to Commercial Fuel, Pittsburg, KS

    3660-3669, nee 630-631,7-14, nee 1660-1669
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3678-3664-3667-0-6-0
    Originally StL&SF 9-12, renumbered to 1664-1667, and finally to 3664-3667. By 1921 only the 3664 was left.
    3660, Manchester, TE=18,100, Scrp July 1915
    3661, Manchester, TE=18,100, Scrp June 1915
    3662, Cooke, TE=12,100, Scrp July 1916
    3663, Cooke, TE=12,100, Scrp May 1915
    3664, Baldwin, TE 18,800,
    3665, Baldwin, TE 18,800,
    3666, Baldwin, TE 18,800,
    3667, Baldwin, TE 18,800, Scrp May 1916
    3668, Hinkley, TE 18,800, Scrp Aug 1915
    3669, Hinkley, TE 18,800, Scrp June 1916


    3670, nee 12
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3679-3670-0-6-0
    Former StM&SE#12
    TE=28,200
    FA=4.29
    Sold June 1916


    3671-3675
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3683-3671-3675-0-6-0
    I believe that this class of 0-6-0's was the first class of switchers on the Frisco to get its firebox above the drivers, and therefore enjoy a larger grate area. This class utilized a crown bar firebox, which reduced boiler circulation and caused increased scaling. It was not used much (on new locomotives) after the turn of the century.
    TE=33,700
    FA=4.41

    3671 retired Mar 1950
    3672 retired Apr 1951
    3673 retired Jan 1952
    3674 retired Feb 1950
    3675 retired Nov 1951


    During the latter years, 3671 was a Ft Scott engine and the rest of the class could be found working in Springfield.

    3676-3685
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3686-3676-3685-0-6-0

    The Memphis road was absorbed into the Frisco during 1901, and these 10 switchers were placed on the KCFS&M books. One year later, the Frisco would purchase 10 more identical locomotives(3686-3695). Note the changes that were made to the tender.
    TE=28,200
    FA=4.26

    3676 sold Scullin Steel July 1937
    3677 retired July 1937
    3678 retired Jan 1952
    3679 sold Dec 1936 Consolidated Coal, B'ham, AL
    3680 retired Mar 1935
    3681 sold Nov 1940 Commercial Fuel, Pittsburg, KS
    3682 retired Feb 1939
    3683 retired Sept 1939
    3684 retired Sept 1934
    3685 sold Jan 1941 Delta Valley & Southern RR, Elkins AR

    3686-3695
    http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3687-3686-3695-0-6-0

    This class was indentical to the 3676-3685 class 0-6-0's, which were purchased by the "KCFS&M" a year earlier. The 3695, which resides in the MOT in St Louis has KCFtS&M on its Hancock number plate.
    TE=28,200
    FA=4.26

    3686 retired Sept 1934
    3687 retired May 1946
    3688 retired Feb 1939
    3689 retired July 1939
    3690 sold Dec 1948 to Woodstock Slag Co, Woodward, AL
    3691 retired July 1939
    3692 retired Mar 1945
    3693 retired Mar 1939
    3694 retired Apr 1947
    3695 sold 1937 Scullin Steel, St Louis, MO; 1956 stuffed and mounted at the Museum of Transport, St Louis, MO
     
  12. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    There is a photo of Number 12 in the Cape Girardeau thread, under the River Division, Chaffee Sub.

    Ken McElreath
     
  13. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    There is a photo of Number 12 in the Cape Girardeau thread, under the River Division, Chaffee Sub.

    Ken McElreath
     
  14. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks guys for all the input, very interesting reading, and so much documentation.
     

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