All these photos are from the collection of Bud Laws and are used by permission. Also, most of these images have written details about the particular locomotive. But I have misplaced the file that lists the details. I will revise these if I find the file. Art (Moderator: Photo taken at 19th St. Yard, Kansas City, MO. rrt)
Note that the photo of 3747 appears to be at the Springfield Depot. Note the "Lipscomb" sign on the elevator in the background. Best Regards,
A question, Were these 2-6-0, 2-6-2, 2-6-4 or other wheel arrangements before they were 0-6-0 configurations? I would like to know what kind of switching locos these were. As far as what would they really pull, could they switch 100 cars at a time? They look like little brutes, small drivers, I bet they were just a wheel slip waiting to happen.
Tom, Please see: http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3708-3700-3712-0-6-0 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3709-3713-3722-0-6-0 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3711-3730-0-6-0 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3727-3731-3740-0-6-0 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3728-3741-3752-0-6-0 All were built as 0-6-0's with TE that ranged from from about 28,000lbs to about 33,000, and depending upon grades and curvature that's 20-50 cars (at 40t/car), Their Factor of adhension ranged from 4.26-4.60, so they were very sure-footed critters.
Karl - How did they compare to the 3600's - in particular the SLSF 3671-3675 and SLSF 3676-3695? The 3695 is my favorite little critter - sold to Scullin Steel and sitting here at the NMOT since 1956. Unfortunately, it receives now no love and care it seems. Ken
Karl - How did they compare to the 3600's - in particular the SLSF 3671-3675 and SLSF 3676-3695? The 3695 is my favorite little critter - sold to Scullin Steel and sitting here at the NMOT since 1956. Unfortunately, it receives now no love and care it seems. Ken
Ken, Most of the locomotives from the 3600 series of 0-6-0’s ante-date the Memphis Road merger and the series is comprised of locomotives from several of the Frisco’s antecedent roads. Many of the locomotives in this series were sold or put to the torch before the 1920’s. The 3698 was a 0-4-0, and the 3699 was a 0-4-2; both were built for the BB Rwy as that road’s Number 5 and number 1, respectively. 3600-3610, nee 600-610, nee 1600-1610, TE=12,300; No “modern” diagram. Disposition: Almost the entire class was removed from the roster during the Mass Extinction of 1914-1916 3600, Scrp Apr 1915 3601, Scrp July 1915 3602, Rebuilt into a tank locomotive for use at Springfield North Shops 3603, Scrp Sept 1914 3604, Scrp Aug 1915 3605, Scrp Feb 1915 3606, Scrp Mar 1915 3607, Scrp Oct 1914 3608, Scrp Aug 1913 3609, Scrp Oct 1913 3610, Scrp June 1915 3611-3614, nee 611-614, nee 1611-1614, TE=15,600; No “modern” diagram. Disposition: The entire class was removed from the roster during the Mass Extinction of 1914-1916. 3611, Scrp Aug 1915 3612, Scrp Apr 1916 3613, Scrp July 1915 3614, Scrp Aug 1915 3615-3629, nee 615-629, nee 1615-1629; TE=15,000; FA=5.20; A very, very sure-footed group of 0-6-0’s http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3661-3629-0-6-0 Disposition: Almost the entire class was removed from the roster during the Mass Extinction of 1914-1916 3615, Scrp june 1915 3616, Sold Sept 1910 3617, Scrp july 1915 3618, Scrp May 1916 3619, Sold Apr 1916 3620, Scrp June 1916 3621, Scrp June 1916 3622, Scrp July 1916 3623, Scrp Aug 1915 3624, Scrp May 1915 3625, Scrp Aug 1915 3626, Scrp June 1916 3627, Scrp July 1915 3628, Scrp Aug 1915 3629. Scrp Unkn 3630 StLM&SE number 10, No “modern” diagram, TE=11200; scrp June 1906 3631, nee BB Rwy number 4; TE=16300; FA=5.02 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3662-3631-0-6-0 3632-3633, nee 632-633, nee 1632-1633; http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3663-3632-0-6-0 Sole locomotive left from a 2 locomotive class from the KCFS&M. Originally 632-633, the Frisco renumbered these into the 3632-3633 class 3634 – 3635, nee 634-635, nee 1634-1635, TE=16,200 3636-3639, nee 636-639, nee 1636-1639; TE=16,800; FA=4.88 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3669-3636-3639-0-6-0 The Frisco lumped 4 Memphis Road locomotives from two separate orders (1897 & 1901) into a single class. 3641-3647, nee 1-6, 15, nee 1641-1639; Built by the Frisco by three builders; 3641, Baldwin, TE=16,500, Scrp Mar 1914 3642, Baldwin, TE=16,500, Scrp Apr 1914 3643, Rogers, TE=17,000, Scrp June 1916 3644, Rogers, TE=17,000, Scrp May 1916 3645, Rogers, TE=17,000, Scrp May 1916 3646, Cooke, TE=16,800, Scrp May 1916 3647 3648-3657; TE=28200; FA=4.26 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3672-3648-3657-0-6-0 3648, 3649, 3650, 3652 sold June 1916 NOT&M RR 3651 retired May 1946 3653 retired may 1946 3654 Sold Dec 29 1944 to Hurden and Farmer OKC 3655 retired April 1931 3656-3657 sold to Commercial Fuel, Pittsburg, KS 3660-3669, nee 630-631,7-14, nee 1660-1669 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3678-3664-3667-0-6-0 Originally StL&SF 9-12, renumbered to 1664-1667, and finally to 3664-3667. By 1921 only the 3664 was left. 3660, Manchester, TE=18,100, Scrp July 1915 3661, Manchester, TE=18,100, Scrp June 1915 3662, Cooke, TE=12,100, Scrp July 1916 3663, Cooke, TE=12,100, Scrp May 1915 3664, Baldwin, TE 18,800, 3665, Baldwin, TE 18,800, 3666, Baldwin, TE 18,800, 3667, Baldwin, TE 18,800, Scrp May 1916 3668, Hinkley, TE 18,800, Scrp Aug 1915 3669, Hinkley, TE 18,800, Scrp June 1916 3670, nee 12 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3679-3670-0-6-0 Former StM&SE#12 TE=28,200 FA=4.29 Sold June 1916 3671-3675 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3683-3671-3675-0-6-0 I believe that this class of 0-6-0's was the first class of switchers on the Frisco to get its firebox above the drivers, and therefore enjoy a larger grate area. This class utilized a crown bar firebox, which reduced boiler circulation and caused increased scaling. It was not used much (on new locomotives) after the turn of the century. TE=33,700 FA=4.41 3671 retired Mar 1950 3672 retired Apr 1951 3673 retired Jan 1952 3674 retired Feb 1950 3675 retired Nov 1951 During the latter years, 3671 was a Ft Scott engine and the rest of the class could be found working in Springfield. 3676-3685 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3686-3676-3685-0-6-0 The Memphis road was absorbed into the Frisco during 1901, and these 10 switchers were placed on the KCFS&M books. One year later, the Frisco would purchase 10 more identical locomotives(3686-3695). Note the changes that were made to the tender. TE=28,200 FA=4.26 3676 sold Scullin Steel July 1937 3677 retired July 1937 3678 retired Jan 1952 3679 sold Dec 1936 Consolidated Coal, B'ham, AL 3680 retired Mar 1935 3681 sold Nov 1940 Commercial Fuel, Pittsburg, KS 3682 retired Feb 1939 3683 retired Sept 1939 3684 retired Sept 1934 3685 sold Jan 1941 Delta Valley & Southern RR, Elkins AR 3686-3695 http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?3687-3686-3695-0-6-0 This class was indentical to the 3676-3685 class 0-6-0's, which were purchased by the "KCFS&M" a year earlier. The 3695, which resides in the MOT in St Louis has KCFtS&M on its Hancock number plate. TE=28,200 FA=4.26 3686 retired Sept 1934 3687 retired May 1946 3688 retired Feb 1939 3689 retired July 1939 3690 sold Dec 1948 to Woodstock Slag Co, Woodward, AL 3691 retired July 1939 3692 retired Mar 1945 3693 retired Mar 1939 3694 retired Apr 1947 3695 sold 1937 Scullin Steel, St Louis, MO; 1956 stuffed and mounted at the Museum of Transport, St Louis, MO
There is a photo of Number 12 in the Cape Girardeau thread, under the River Division, Chaffee Sub. Ken McElreath
There is a photo of Number 12 in the Cape Girardeau thread, under the River Division, Chaffee Sub. Ken McElreath
