Rolla-Lebanon Subdivision Stations and Mile Posts

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  1. mike

    mike Guest

    Rolla-Lebanon Sub Stations and Mile Posts

    Rolla-Lebanon Sub Stations and Mile Posts
     

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  2. rogerrt477

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    Southeastern Junction to Teed, MO Stations and Mileposts

    Southeastern Junction to Teed, MO.-

    M.P. Station---------- Blt.-- P.C.-
    7.1 Southeastern Jct.- 1883 SL&SFRY
    7.9 Shrewsbury------- 1883 "
    8.7 Old Orchard------- 1883 "
    9.4 So.Webster------- 1883 "
    10.1 Webster Groves-- 1883 "
    11.0 Glendale--------- 1883 "
    11.5 Oakland---------- 1883 "
    11.8 Fairlawn---------- 1883 "
    12.7 Kirkwood--------- 1883 "
    13.2 Windsor Springs-- 1883 "
    14.8 Meremac Highlands 1883 "
    16.0 Tree Court------- 1883 "
    16.5 Key's Summit----- 1883 "
    17.9 Valley Park------- 1883 "
    19.7 Ranken----------- 1882 "
    20.8 Morschel's-------- 1882 "
    21.9 Tyson------------ 1882 "
    23.0 Mincke----------- 1882 "
    24.9 Crescent--------- 1882 "
    26.5 Famous---------- 1882 "
    27.2 Eureka----------- 1882 "
    28.4 Sylvester-------- 1882 "
    29.8 Allenton--------- 1882 "
    31.6 Dozier----------- 1882 "
    32.7 Woods----------- 1882 "
    33.3 Bowes----------- 1882 "
    34.1 Franklin---------- 1882 "
    34.1 Pacific----------- 1882 SL&SFRY

    34.1 Pacific---------- 1856 PRR
    34.1 Franklin--------- 1856 "
    36.0 Mikkelson------- 1856 "
    36.4 Universal-------- 1856 "
    38.8 Catawissa------- 1856 "
    40.8 Robertsville------ 1856 "
    42.0 Meramac Terrace ???? "
    43.1 Shewell--------- ???? "
    44.0 Rook------------ ???? "
    46.0 Moselle--------- ???? "
    52.3 St.Clair--------- ???? "
    57.2 Anaconda------- ???? "
    58.8 Kelsey---------- ???? "
    62.2 Stanton-------- 1857 "
    64.6 Acid------------ 1858 "
    68.1 Sullivan--------- 1858 "
    74.3 Bourbon-------- 1859 "
    77.2 Coffeyton------ 1859 "
    79.6 Leasburg------- 1859 "
    83.8 Hofflins--------- 1859 "
    86.8 Cuba----------- 1859 "
    91.4 Fanning-------- 1860 "
    94.8 Rosati---------- 1860 "
    95.2 Knobview------- 1860 "
    100.5 St.James------ 1860 "
    105.7 Dillon---------- 1860 "
    110.7 Rolla---------- 1860 PRR

    110.7 Rolla----------- 1866 SWP
    112.7 Sills------------ 1866 "
    119.2 Newburg------- 1866 "
    121.0 Albambra Grotto 1866 "
    121.5 Bundy Jct.----- 1866 "
    123.2 Arlington------- 1866 SWP

    123.2 Arlington----- 1868 SP
    124.0 Jerome------- 1868 "
    129.0 Franks------- 1868 "
    133.8 Wye--------- 1868 "
    134.7 Dixon-------- 1868 "
    136.5 Rhode's Spur- 1868 "
    138.3 Helm--------- 1868 "
    140.1 Hancock----- 1868 "
    141.9 Purdon------- 1868 "
    142.0 Jury--------- 1868 "
    146.7 Crocker------ 1868 "
    150.1 Schlicht----- 1868 "
    150.2 Templar Park- 1868 "
    152.3 Swedeborg--- 1868 "
    155.2 St.John------ 1868 "
    159.2 East Richland 1868 "
    159.9 Richland----- 1868 "
    163.5 Garnsey------ 1868 "
    167.6 Stoutland---- 1868 "
    171.4 Delmar------- 1868 "
    174.3 Sleeper------ 1868 "
    175.9 Carroll------- 1868 "
    178.7 Russell------- 1868 "
    181.9 Lebanon------ 1868 "
    187.5 Brush Creek-- 1868 "
    190.5 Huben------- 1868 "
    194.0 Phillipsburg--- 1869 "
    198.5 Conway------ 1869 "
    203.0 Samson------ 1869 "
    207.0 Niangua------ 1869 "
    213.5 Marshfield---- 1869 "
    220.1 Northview---- 1868 "
    224.4 Holman------- 1869 "
    228.0 Strafford----- 1869 "
    230.5 Nogo--------- 1870 "
    235.8 Walley------- 1870 "
    236.7 Eastern Jct.-- 1870 "
    236.7 Teed--------- 1870 SP

    Predecessor Companies-
    1) SL&SFRY-St.Louis & San Francisco RY
    2) PRR-Pacific Railroad of Missouri/Southwest Branch
    3) SWP-Southwest Pacific RR
    4) SP-South Pacific RR

    Notes-
    1) Connects with St.Louis Terminal Sub at Southeastern Jct.
    2) Interchanges with Missouri Pacific RR at Fairlawn, Valley Park & Pacific.
    3) Connects with Salem Branch at Cuba.
    4) Line relocated @MP 15.0-15.5 to bypass tunnel, construction began Spring 1922-completed 7/26/1923.
    5) 415' Tunnel at MP 15.1 (Meremac Highlands), removed from service 1929.
    6) Double track Southeastern Jct. to Pacific. 2nd track from Valley Park to Eureka removed 196?.
    7) Depots still standing at Webster Groves & St.James.
    8) First train from Pacific-Rolla, MO. 12/22/1860.
    9) Was to interchange with Missouri, Arkansas & Gulf RY at Rolla (partly graded/never built, Rolla to Houston, MO.)
    10) Interchanges with U.S. Army RR at Bundy Jct.
    11) Arlington-St.Roberts, MO. graded 1867, never built.
    12) Arlington-Hancock, MO. line relocated 1945.
    13) Was to interchange with Laclede & Ft.Scott RR at Lebanon. (Graded Lebanon-Buffalo, MO./never built).
    14) 1st train Pacific-Springfield 5/3/1870.
    15) Connects with Springfield Terminal Sub at Teed.
     
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  3. Midmo1

    Midmo1 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Wow
    Cool to see that there was a line graded from Arlington to St.Robt by never built (note 11)...I wonder how hard that would be to find today...
    Is that the same Ft.Wood line??...It does run through St Robt...
    midmo
     
  4. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    First Frisco CTC

    It was installed in 1944 between Dillon and Swedeborg to allow removal of four passing sidings and to speed up the helper operations on Dixon Hill. A full article reprinted from Railway Age, with permission, appeared in FMIG LINES 104, which will be posted tomorrow sometime. I'll try to attach two drawings I redid from the Railway Age feature. It shows all the signals and passing sidings plus the two wyes from back then. Doug
     

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  5. w3hodoug

    w3hodoug 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Rolla&Lebanon Subdivisions Industry Schematics

    I'd like copies, preferable from the late 1960's.

    Anyone have them?

    Doug
     
  6. swanky1

    swanky1 Member

    could you tell me what frisco trains ran through leslie,mo? leslie is a little town so maybe beaufort or gerald might be a better choice to give you a idea of the area i am asking about. i remember seeing a frisco train run through there when i was a kid in the late 70 and 80's. i am new to this and not really sure if you can help. i would like to model that area so any help you could give would be greatly appreciated. thanks gary
     
  7. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Leslie isn't on the Frisco (now BNSF) line, It's well to the North. It might have been on the Rock Island or Missouri Pacific. If a Frisco train went through there it must have been a re-routing because of a flood, derailment or such. The closest town on the Frisco to Leslie would probably have been Sullivan.

    Tom
     
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  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Yes, Leslie, along with Beaufort and Gerald, were on the former Rock Island St Louis - Kansas City line. That's the area in mid-Missouri, west of Union, where my grandfather had his farm. The CRIP ran right through the middle of it, as did US50.

    Ken
     
  9. frisco4301

    frisco4301 Member

    I had always assumed that the Gasconade River bridge collapse, November 1, 1855 killing 43, as referenced in Craig Miner's book on the 35th Parallel Project, was on the SW Branch of the Pacific RR. I never really put dates together but when looking at the construction timeline below, the bridge over the Gasconade would not have been built on what became the SLSF until 1868. It would only make sense then that the Gasconade bridge disaster was on the Pacific RR or Missouri Pacific. Does anyone have any more information on this? Thanks, Jeff Cooney, Lindsay, TX
     
  10. Yes, the Gasconade Bridge disaster was on what later became the Missouri Pacific. Here are a couple of online versions of contemporary news articles, complete with thoroughly purple period prose. The first specifically describes the ill-fated excursion train as travelling from St. Louis to Jefferson City.

    http://www3.gendisasters.com/missouri/7090/gasconade-mo-train-wreck-nov-1855

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E05E0D8113CE13BBC4051DFB767838E649FDE

    Miner's book (which I don't have at hand at the moment) probably provides the most complete description of the business relationship between the Pacific RR (later MP) and the Southwest Branch (later SLSF).
     
  11. frisco4301

    frisco4301 Member

    Thanks Bradley. Very interesting period articles. Also thanks for the TT's you sent. I am still going over them. They are a wealth of information. Jeff
     
  12. Garnsey mile post 163.6 is not in Fort Wood Branch constructed ~ 1941.

    GARNSEY MP 163.6, station # 164
    152.3 Swedeborg
    ~ 1869. South Pacific constructed the railway from Arlington 1868 to Springfield 1870
    [ prior the area was called Woodend when no railroad]. Swedish migrants purchased the site
    from the new railroad; hence the name.
    159.3 East Richland
    159.9 Richland

    163.6 Garnsey <<===<<< 1852 USA Land Grant>RR property~1869 construction site
    South Pacific of Missouri Railroad (1868 to 1870) & 1870+ had flag stops >>active spurs, telegraph~1902 to ~1950.
    (Garnsey named for ? No MO records for Garnsey persons there 1869.
    ( Garnsey was a very rare name back then; less than 90 Garnsey families in the USA in 1869**.


    No Garnsey names in Missouri in 1869.
    ~ 88 Garnsey families lived in New York (&~2 lived in IL) at that time.
    167.6 Stoutland [1st called the Switch, next called Stoutville and soon officially named as Stoutland ].
    174.3 Sleeper

    175.9 Carroll [Orchard Spur was the initial name ]
    181.9 Lebanon already existed prior to the railroad. That was ~ a mile west of
    where the station was built. So the town grew up around the depot.

    ** Most names from Crocker to Sleeper were for railroad's main investors in New York.
    Mr's Crocker, Rich, likely Garnsey , Stout, Sleeper, were major RR investors and/or RR Directors
    in the South Pacific RR of Missouri (1868 - 1870) or the newAtlantic & Pacific Missouri Branch RR 1871-1876
    (which was separate bonds, Inc., Directors and management) its major investor was the
    1866 A & P in southwestern states. Atlantic & Pacific Missouri Branch RR defaulted i 1876,
    1876 newly Inc.'d St. Louis and San Francisco Railway Company of Missouri took over the
    defaulted Atlantic & Pacific Missouri Branch route .

    ~~~~~~~

    Bundy Jct was not constructed in 1868.

    It does not show on the Aug. 7, 1932 Timetable No. 24.1

    Bundy Jct likely built ~ 1941 when SLSF helped to constructed the Fort Wood Branch.

    95% of the used Frisco rails had been manufactured in England.
    The truss bridge over the Big Piney River on the Fort Wood Branch
    was used prior by the SLSF at another location, moved and reassembled there
    during the project.

    TIME TABLE No. 24.1. AUGUST 7, 1932.
    NEWBURG ARLINGTON JEROME FRANKS DIXON HELM HANCOCK JURY CROCKER SWEDEBORG ST. JOHN
    EAST RICHLAND RICHLAND GARNSEY STOUTLAND........>>.





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  13. Garnsey mile post 163.6 is not in Fort Wood Branch (1941+).

    GARNSEY MP 163.6, station # 164
    152.3 Swedeborg [Woodend pre-railroad ].
    Swedish immigrates purchased site from the new railroad.
    159.3 East Richland
    159.9 Richland

    163.6 Garnsey <<===<<< 1852 USA Land Grant>RR property~1869 construction site
    South Pacific of Missouri Railroad ** (1868 to 1870) & 1870+ flag stops. >active spurs, telegraph~1902 to ~1950.

    Garnsey named for? No MO gov't & cemetery records for Garnsey persons in 1869.
    Garnsey was a very rare name back then. Less than 90 Garnsey families in the USA in 1869.
    Most Garnsey s were in Europe.
    No Garnsey names in Missouri in 1869. ~ 88 Garnsey families lived in New York (&~2 in IL) at that time.
    163.8 Garnsey
    167.6 Stoutland [Stoutville ~ 1870] [ the Switch in 1869]
    174.3 Sleeper
    175.9 Carroll [Orchard Spur ]
    181.9 Lebanon

    ** Most new names from Crocker to Sleeper were selected for railroad investors or Directors in New York & Boston.
    Mr's Crocker, Rich, likely Garnsey, Stout, Sleeper, were major RR investors and/or RR Directors
    in the South Pacific RR of Missouri (1868 - 1870) or the Atlantic & Pacific Missouri Branch RR 1871.


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