Origin of Image

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  1. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    We have received a question asking us if we know the origin of this image.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Charlie

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  2. Turky44

    Turky44 Member

    Artist: Bern Hill

    Maybe 1951?
     
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  3. gbnf

    gbnf Member

    It is indeed by free-lance graphic designer, illustrator and painter Bern Hill (1911 – 1977). His work for General Motor's Electro-Motive Division, circa 1950 - 1956, was used as covers for Railway Age Magazine. Some were turned into high quality promotional posters.

    http://badcatrecords.com/BadCat/AA_review_BERNhill.htm

    This one in black and white was used as the front cover of the Frisco Museum All Aboard magazine Jan-Feb 1994.

    - George
     
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  4. gbnf

    gbnf Member

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  5. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    It was also used on the cover of an issue of Kalmbach's Trains.
    K
     
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  6. modeltruckshop

    modeltruckshop Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I have seen it offered as a poster or print on eBay too.
     
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  7. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    The gentleman is wondering about copyright issues using the image in a book.
     
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  8. gstout

    gstout Member Frisco.org Supporter

    It is not uncommon for railroad books and articles about railroads to include images of advertising created on behalf of the subject railroad. As long as the written work is not a compendium of the ads themselves, but is identified as a promotional piece used to promote, in this case, EMD passenger diesels, with the artist identified, there should not be a problem. I would guess, if there is a copyright, it is held by General Motors.

    GS
     
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  9. gbnf

    gbnf Member

    One of the comments on the page I linked:

    "I've just written my first novel about the Santa Fe Super Chief and I've been trying for months to find out how I could get permission to use the image from Santa Fe - The Chief Way, for the front cover. I've contacted GM and BNSF to see if they have the rights but they say they do not. I cannot find anything about his estate or who to contact to get permission to use one of his images." (Doug Folsom, October 2012)

    Another site definitely shows the image used as the cover for the October 29, 1951 issue of Railway Age.

    http://streamlinermemories.info/?p=2799
     

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  10. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks. Hopefully this will help him.

    Charlie
     
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