Oil Burner Tenders

Discussion in 'General Steam' started by yardmaster, Jun 27, 2021.

  1. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Folks -
    When looking at photos of the various Frisco oil-burning tenders and the pipe-handrail that runs topside, I always assumed that it was centered in the middle of the tender. In other words, it was effectively overlapping the rail center line.

    However, I see a Frisco Archive photo of this:


    And it seems to make sense for both the oil filler hatch and the "manhole" cover that it would be off-center, as it appears to be in this photo. Is this location typical for the prototype?

    As with many things Frisco, especially in the realm of steam motive power, the answer may be "always consult photos of your specific prototype."

    Best Regards,
  2. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Or it was nonexistent on some.
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  3. ranulf

    ranulf Member

    Interesting . The tank heat lines are on the engineer's side. I would have thought they'd be on the fireman's side, since he controls them. At first I thought the negative was flipped, but it's not.

    Many people would be surprised how "hand-built" most steam locomotives were, and just how much they got modified over their lifespans. The boards across the cab in that photo suggest this loco's career is over, parked on the dead line waiting to be scrapped. Who knows how different it was from its factory blueprints by this time?
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  4. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    In the case of the engine in the photo, she had a long way to go and still isn't scrapped.
  5. geep07

    geep07 Member

  6. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    If only it was that easy.
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  7. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    In today's railroading environment, steam on a PTC railroad is going to be a tall order to achieve, unless a waiver can be obtained. The UP is currently having difficulties getting the 4014 to meet PTC requirements.
  8. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    PTC would be the least of the problems.
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  9. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    No doubt you are correct. But it's my understanding that any locomotive in the lead position on a PTC railroad must be PTC compliant. The estimates I have seen by those involved with such indicate to make a steam locomotive compliant at the minimum level runs $100-$150k. I've never been involved with a mainline steam move, but I do fear this mandate is going to severely impact main line moves for steam in general.
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