Line relocation north of Lebanon?

Discussion in 'Rolla-Lebanon Subdivision' started by Bradley A. Scott, Mar 15, 2015.

  1. While looking for something else on Google Maps, I noticed what appears to be an abandoned grade paralleling the BNSF (ex-Frisco) for about five miles north of Lebanon. My guess is that this represents the original route of the Frisco, and the line was later relocated to the current route. I'm curious what others might know about the date and history of any such relocation.

    The southern end of the "mystery grade" is at the north end of Lebanon, where the current route crosses E. Commerial/Millcreek Road and curves to the right (east):

    https://goo.gl/maps/m6tXG

    If you look closely at the Google satellite view, you can see a grade that continues straight to the north-northeast where the current route curves to east-northeast. It runs along the west bank of Dry Auglaize Creek for a little over three miles, then makes a sweeping S-curve to the east-southeast and back to the northeast, crossing the creek and rejoining the current line just northwest of the I-44 Speedway, as visible here:

    https://goo.gl/maps/Ls5EA

    It looks like the current route is a bit shorter, and may not drop into the creek bottom as far as the abandoned one did, which probably means it doesn't have as much dip and rise. But that's just speculation on my part. Does anyone have any solid information about the date of this apparent relocation, or some old timetables or milepost designations that would show a resulting change in mileage?

    BAS
     
  2. Brad Slone

    Brad Slone Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Bradley,

    I don't recall the specifics off the top of my head, I believe Doug Hughes has written a little about it in some of the old newsletters. Best I remember it was done sometime after the Dixon and Hancock Hill relocates and for a while the old alignment was left in place and traffic was separated by direction. I'll see if I can dig up some specifics.

    Brad Slone
     
  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    In checking Employee Timetables from the earliest that I have images of beginning with one for the St Louis & San Francisco Railroad Co. date April 24, 1898 to the newest ETT #4 dated April 22, 1979, Lebanon is shown as MP 181.8. Apparently the change in track did not create a change in distance.
     
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  4. RogerRT

    RogerRT Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    This was part of a couple double track projects Frisco undertook to boost capacity on the Eastern Division, the other was between Swedeborg & just south of St.John, MO. Frisco also relocated a 6 degree curve between Sleeper & Carroll, MO., just north of the present West Sleeper siding switch with a 4 degree curve, this part is still in service as the Sleeper siding. Work began on the Sleeper portion in the fall of 1920 & was completed in spring 1921, the Swedeborg portion was built in 1923. With the installation of CTC in the Summer of 1947 both double track portions were abandoned with parts converted into sidings, the one at Swedeborg became a 6730' siding with 2.6-miles from West Swedeborg to MP155.8 abandoned. The Sleeper-Kurn portion was converted into a 7306' CTC siding from Sleeper to near Carroll with 5.2-miles abandoned to near East Lebanon. The East Lebanon-Kurn double track was reduced to 11697' CTC siding between 1969-1973. The new south line was 5.15-miles compared to the 5.9-mile original main between West Sleeper & East Lebanon, a .26-mile piece of the original main was retained after the 1947 abandonment to service an industry north of East Lebanon.There was another project in this area involving grade reduction that was done around this time but I can't think the location right now.

    Roger
     
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  5. pathowe

    pathowe Member

    What was the original alignment at Dixon? I'm on google earth looking now and some of it seems obvious but then I get lost.
     
  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I knew that I had a document that would show a map of the area between Lebanon and Carrol Jct. Attached is a geologic map from Report of Investigation No. 18, The Geology of The Lebanon Quadrangle, 1955. The 15 minute topo base was published during 1952. The explanation for the cross hatching on the map:

    The broadly spaced diagonal lines denote the Jefferson City Dolomite;
    Areas without a pattern are underlain by the Roubidoux Formation;
    Areas with the closely spaced diagonals are underlain by the Gasconade Formation.


    The links are to ETT 35D May 1, 1947 which show the tonnage ratings for the double track segment and the locations of the track segments.

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=4904&d=1193496259

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=4914&d=1193496645
     

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  7. pathowe

    pathowe Member

    I found a USGS with it on it. It use to really snake through the hills!
     
  8. RogerRT

    RogerRT Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

  9. Thanks to all who responded!

    BAS
     

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