Business Car SLSF 1100 Business car SLSF 1100, later to be named "Arkansas". Frisco photograph, Location and date unknown. Business car SLSF 1100 floor plan. Note that drawing shows turtleback roof, which is not shown in the above photograph. Published in the former Frisco Museum's All Aboard newsletter. Reprinted with permission.
I would say that there is more than just the roof that is different. The drawing is also missing some windows.
Drexel, Both of which most likely indicate that the photograph was take before the car was modernized. If we had the portion of the general arrangement diagram that indicated build or rebuild dates, that would help figure it out. Paul
Tom Galbraith's records show this car sold to Claude L. Steppe of Athens, Ohio, who reportedly renamed the car "Two Steppe". It was listed as such in Randall's book Private Passenger Car Annual - 1980. Anyone have more recent information about the car?
Tom Galbraith just posted photographs of this car after the rebuilding shown in the general arrangement diagram above. Please see the following link. http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index....ars-names-numbers-etc-updated.1599/#post-9152 Paul
Well, someone asked if anyone had any more information. Finally I not only can provide that, but I have gained the history of a car that has been needing it, and a location as well. On George Elwood's Fallen Flags Railroad site he has a shot of a blue and gray car named Ohio, shown under George Silcott/Silcott Railway Equipment ownership. Please see the following link. http://rr-fallenflags.org/misc-s/gsre-ohio-atb.jpg An employee recently emailed me asking if I had any information on the car and said that the number 1100 was found stamped into some of the trim fixtures. After seeing the photograph in the above link, he has emailed me back and said that this is indeed the car and that the car is still around. It is located in Worthington, Ohio! The car is still their office, just as it was when the shot was taken. Also there is the former Southern (SOU) Alco S-2 2221. Edit 6/3/2024: Additional photographs of the car after being sold by the Frisco while owned by George Silcott Railway Equipment. From the Passenger Car Photographs web site. http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/gasx-ohio0.jpg https://rr-fallenflags.org/misc-s/gsre-OHIO-dcb.jpg Added to additional photograph links. MKD
Here is all I had ever learned about that car among the information I had gathered. Originally Kansas City, Ft. Scott and Memphis (KCFS&M) business car KCFS&M 100. Built Barney and Smith during March 1883. Renumbered on the Frisco as business car SLSF 1100. Renumbered SLSF 4 - 5/3/1947. Renumbered SLSF 8 - 2/28/1948. Renamed “Arkansas” - 6/18/1954. ”Charged off” May 1959. Sold to Claude L. Steppe, Athens, Ohio - 4/15/1960. George Elwood's photograph looks more like the car as its identity on the Frisco as business car SLSF 8 or "Arkansas". That "latter day" freelance paint scheme is truly awful! Tom
Jerry, You are going to make me dig through my photos now. I have several photographs of Silcott's "Ohio" from when I lived in Columbus, OH before it became nearly impossible to get back to see Silcott's collection of stuff. Worthington, OH is a northern suburb of Columbus. Paul
Here are some photographs I took showing Silcott's "Ohio" on February 22, 2001. The first three photographs were taken from a road that runs along the west side of Silcott's yard. There is now a concrete wall between the road and the yard to block the "ugly" sight from the new condominiums across the street. The last photograph was taken from the property of the adjacent Ohio Railway Museum. The railway museum has a collection of trolley cars, among other things. Paul
Tom, I am trying to find the original specifications for this car. A friend of mine just purchased this car and wants to restore it to original specifications if possible. Can you point me in the right direction? stephenpettebone@sbcglobal.net
You might try these threads. http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?1247-Business-Car-1100-Arkansas&highlight=1100 Scroll down to the post by "Chris" dated 9/13/2003. http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?1247-Business-Car-1100-Arkansas&highlight=business Scroll down to the post by TAG1014 dated 2/4/2010.
All I know about that car is in the PDF file at the beginning of this thread. http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index....ers-renumbers-names-renames-etc-updated.1599/ You may also find the rest of the thread of some interest. Tom G. TAG1014 Edit 6/3/2024: Repaired by replacing referenced broken link. MKD
Howdy all, Need some help. We will be changing the wheelsets under this car next week. We' are putting in roller bearing axles. Does anyone know how much this car weighs? Would like to order the proper sized crane for the job and not over or undershoot it. Thanks!
Mike, From the Eastern Division Employee Time Table (ETT) Number 35D, May 1, 1947. Office car SLSF 1100 weight is 101 tons.
I know there are a couple threads for this car here and I was not sure which was more likely to get read. Here is the state of business car SLSF 1100 as of this afternoon. It sits in the same place it has the last 5 years or so. I pass it all the time and finally stopped for a couple quick photographs. The owner died a couple years ago. Everything but one streamlined passenger car and this car sold quickly. Current rumor around here is a Florida group is interested. It is getting rough and the local kids are taking there toll. Delaware, OH is a small town but this car sits in the worst part of it. Hopefully these do not leave a puke taste in the back of your throat. Hopefully she gets a better home soon. Steve
Interesting, Steve. I wonder if the air valve labels were always on the car, or if they have been added later on? Best Regards,
Not sure, they are rough and old for sure. If it looks like the scrappers are coming I will save them.
I have lost all track of these business cars since I put that article posted on this site someplace together. But I am pretty sure this is not the car originally numbered SLSF 1100, but one of the newer cars converted from diners in the 1940s. Does anyone know a link to the article and photographs on business cars that I posted? There may be some more information on the car pictured. Tom G.
Hey Tom, In post #5 in this thread there is a link to your information. It is the car in your post #7 in this thread, with what was know about it then.
