Frisco #1100 (Arkansas) observation car; original specifications

Business Car #1100

Business Car #1100 (later to be "Arkansas.") Frisco Photos; published in the Frisco Museum's "All Aboard" magazine and reprinted with permission.

#1100 - Date/Location unknown.


#1100 Floor Plan. Note that drawing shows turtleback roof, which is not shown in the above picture.

 

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"Note that drawing shows turtleback roof, which is not shown in the above picture."

I'd say that there's more than just the roof that is different... the drawing is also missing some windows.

 

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Both of which most likely indicate that the picture was take before the car was modernized.

If we had the portion of the general arrangement diagram that indicated build/rebuild dates, that would help figure it out.

Paul

 

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Tom Galbraith's records show this car sold to Claude L. Steppe of Athens, Ohio, who reportedly renamed the car "Two Steppe". It was listed as such in Randall's "Private Passenger Car Annual - 1980". Anyone have more recent information about the car?

 

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Tom Galbraith just posted photos of this car after the rebuilding shown in the general arrangement diagram above see:

http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index....ars-names-numbers-etc-updated.1599/#post-9152

Paul

 

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Well, someone asked if anyone had any more info... and finally I not only can provide that but have gained the history of a car that has been needing it, and a location as well.

On George Elwood's site he has a shot of a blue and gray car named Ohio, shown under George Silcott/Silcott Railway Equipment ownership...
http://rr-fallenflags.org/misc-s/gsre-ohio-atb.jpg

An employee recently emailed me asking if I had any info on the car and said that the number 1100 was found stamped into some of the trim fixtures. After seeing the photo in the above link he has emailed me back and said that this is indeed the car and that the car is still around (as is the former SOU ALCO), located in Worthington, Ohio!!! The car is still their office, just as it was when the shot was taken.

 

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Here's all I had ever learned about that car among the information I had gathered:
--Originally #1100 on the Frisco (ex-KCFS&M #100, Built Barney & Smith March 1883)
--Renumbered #4 5-3-47
--Renumbered #8 2-28-48
--Named “Arkansas” 6-18-54
--”Charged off” May 1959
--Sold 4-15-60 to Claude L. Steppe, Athens, Ohio​

That "Latter day" freelance paint scheme is truly awful!
Tom

EDIT: Elwood's photo looks more like the car as it's identity as "Arkansas" or #8 on the Frisco.​

 

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Jerry, You're going to make me dig through my photos now.

I have several photos of Silcott's "OHIO". from when i lived in Columbus... before it became nearly impossible to get back to see Silcott's collection of stuff.... (Worthington is a northern suburb of Columbus).

Paul

 

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Here are some photos I took showing Silcott's "Ohio" on February 22,2001

The first three photos were taken from a road that runs along the west side of Silcott's yard. There is now a concrete wall between the road and the yard (to block the "ugly" sight from the new condos accross the street).

The last photo was taken from the property of the adjacent Ohio Railway Museum. The railway Museum has a collection of trolley cars, among other things.

Paul

 

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TAG1014, Ref: Business Car #1100 - Arkansas
I am trying to find the original specs for this car. A friend of mine just purchased this car and wants to restore it to original specs if possible. Can you point me in the right direction?

stephenpettebone@sbcglobal.net

 

I posted the Passenger car diagrams on this web site.

 

You might try these:

http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?1247-Business-Car-1100-Arkansas&highlight=1100

Scroll down to the post by "Chris" dated 09-13-2003

http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread.php?1247-Business-Car-1100-Arkansas&highlight=business

Scroll down to the post by TAG1014 dated 02-04-2010

 

Re: Business Car #1100

All I know about that car is in the PDF at the beginning of this thread: http://www.frisco.org/vb/showthread...d/page2&highlight=business+cars+names+numbers

You may also find the rest of the thread of some interest.

Tom G. (TAG1014)

 

Howdy all-
Need some help. We will be changing the wheelsets under this car next week. We're putting in roller bearing axles. Does anyone know how much this car weighs? Would like to order the proper sized crane for the job and not over/undershoot it. Thanks!

 

From the Eastern Divison ETT 35d May 1, 1947 ... 101 Tons

 

I know there are a couple threads for this car here and I wasn't sure which was more likely to get read. Here is the state of 1100 as of this afternoon. It sits in the same place it has the last 5 years or so. I pass it all the time and finally stopped for a couple quick pics. The owner died a couple years ago and everything but one streamlined passenger car and this sold quick. Current rumor around here is a Florida group is interested. It is getting rough and the local kids are taking there toll. Delaware is a small town but this car sits in the worst part of it. Hopefully these don't leave a puke taste in the back of your throat. Hopefully she gets a better home soon........Steve

 

Not sure, they are rough and old for sure. If it looks like the scrappers are coming I will save them.

 

I've lost all track of these business cars since I put that article (posted on this site someplace) together. But I'm pretty sure this isn't the car originally numbered 1100, but one of the newer cars converted from diners in the 1940's. Does anyone know a link to the article and photos on business cars that I posted? There may be some more information on the car pictured.

Tom G.

 

Hey Tom, in post #5 in this thread there is a link to your info. It is the car in your post #7 in this thread, with what was know about it then.