Form CT-107A Register of Hours of Service, (Ft Smith-Arthur Sub)

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  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter

    Just one page from a 1973 Hours of Service Book, Form C.T.107A. It gives a glimpse of operation at Ft Smith. Locomotives, crews, times, etc are listed. Geeps and covered wagons still abound at this time.

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  2. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Just saw this. What a memory jogger!

    I've been on engines/trains with two of the men listed: (Ralph) McAdams, (Tom) Leverette, and know of another (Ron "Hiball") Hall!

    How cool.

    Thanks Karl.

    Andre Ming
  3. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Supporter


    Were you running on the Central Div at this time? If so, will look for your name.
  4. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member


    "Back then" I was on board "unofficially". :D Thus my name would not be found. One must remember that the attitudes and openess of railroaders was very different back then. I had a tremendous amount of access provided, some even by Supervisors (like the Roundhouse Foreman).

    Such memories and such experiences!

  5. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    These are from timeslip stubs that my Dad saved. They are a bear to scan, but I think you can get the drift. Looking back through these books is very interesting!
    Back when he was firing, just before being promoted he kept a journal by "half" pay periods. These are interesting also, showing the variety of power he worked on.
    All of these were on the Rolla Sub.
    One of his stubs shows catching EMD 103!

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  6. John Sanders

    John Sanders Member


    Did your father have anything to say about the spot engines, or his trip on the 103?

    John Sanders
  7. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    He never mentioned the 103. He along with all the other enginemen hated the spot engines. They rode hard, didn't steam worth a darn, beat up the track and were slow.
    He said there was a funeral train of them going west through Newburg and the engineers and firemen that were around the depot cheered and clapped as they left.
    They were much better off as 4400s.
  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

    Don, these are infinitely more fun than reading the Locomotive Fuel Performance reports in the old FEM copies: payslips written by the same hand that was on the throttle...4 sections of #35, with the 4th behind a "rebuilt" Mountain...extras behind a 1500-class Mountain. What times!

    I'll eagerly and patiently await any more scans that make their way here.
  9. tmfrisco

    tmfrisco Member Supporter

    Amen to that Andre. I took several of the teenage boys from my church youth group with me to work when I was working a midnight hump engine in Tulsa. They had a great time. I remember one boy was particularly enthralled with the automatic switches lining in front of us as we would go over the hump and into the bowl to work. I also took my son with me when I was working an industrial engine (Job 17) uptown. I was planning to take my daughter also when the merger took place in 1980, and the relaxed attitude of the Frisco supervisors was changed to a strict no guests policy of the BN. She didn't understand why I played favorites, in her opinion, and took quite a while to get over it. Thanks, Terry
  10. tomd6

    tomd6 Passed Away February 11, 2018

    Re: 1942 Engineer Time Book, Ft Smith-Arthur Sub

    Walton E Coleman was a long time Frisco engineer who worked between Ft Smith and Paris on both freight and passenger runs. I selected this page (December 16, 1942 to January 1, 1943) as shows a diversity of trips including a run on the coal-blessed Mansfield Branch plus Fort Smith-Poteau runs that picked freight going to or coming off the KCS. Several oldtimers mentioned solid trains of tank cars heading north by rail due to U boat activity along the Gulf and East coasts.The December 29, 1942 Paris- Ft Smith trip that required 13.25 hours must have been interesting. One wonders if the sidings were jammed with trains.
    Walton survived well into the diesel age as he was the first Fort Smith engineer to operate the first Fort Smith diesel in 1949 according to eyewitnesses.

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  11. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Supporter

    Regarding the Frisco trials of the original EMC 103 FT ABBA demonstration locomotive - do we know just how much of the Frisco system the FT demo ran on? Sure wish we did!

    I know there is the pic of the FT set at Newburg in one of the FMIG Newsletters, and there is Don's note above that his dad was on board for one of the runs on the Eastern Div, Rolla Sub. Does anyone have any other evidence to go on?

  12. slsfrr (Jerome Lutzenberger deceased)

    slsfrr (Jerome Lutzenberger deceased) Engineer Staff Member Supporter


    Thanks for posting the Mr Coleman's time book. I find it very interesting. Outside the 13 hour trip he had some good days.

  13. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Very interesting! Notice the 1943 time slip scan has several "Poteau Turn" trains?


    Trying to recall the nearest wye to turn an engine near Poteau. There MAY have been one at the coal mine that was just on the southern edge of town "back when".

    Wow... don't you know the Fort Smith/Arthur Sub was something to see during the WW2 years?

    Thanks for the post!

    Andre Ming
  14. john

    john Supporter

    You might be interested in a comment I just read about one of the time periods you are interested in. I just finished reading some congressional testimony about the coal shortage of 1909/1910. A Frisco freight conductor (don't remember his name at the moment) testified that the Frisco kept 5 full crews busy JUST ON THE MANSFIELD BRANCH during that winter.

    It's hard to comprehend that amount of traffic, even in the days of lots of small trains.

  15. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Boy... ain't THAT the truth!

    Way back when I first "discovered" vintage railroading... that was one of THE elements that led to my interest therein, TOC19* in particular.

    As you know, John, I primarily model in V scale, i.e. computer simulation.

    Well... one of V scale's strongest points is also its weakest: The ability to have many different eras and themes right there on your hard drive. Simply point/click: I'm sittin' in the cab of a quartet Frisco GP7's struggling in notch 8 up Boston Mountain circa 1964... OR... point/click: working a coal turn on the Mansfield Branch circa 1908... OR... point/click: running a narrow gauge train up Clear Creek Canyon headed for Black Hawk circa 1884... OR... point/click: slugging it out in the rear helper on a freight struggling up 4% Ute Pass grade on the Colorado Midland circa 1893!

    Yup: ALL of these projects reside on my hard drive as personal "works in progress".

    UNFORTUNATELY... if it is a personal project (i.e. someone else didn't build it for you)... it takes almost as much time to build ONE V scale route as it does to complete a small layout. SOOOOOO... you can tell by my above "gotta' have" list... that I have WAAAAY too many V scale projects that I want to accomplish!!!


    * Turn Of (the 19th) Century
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