Posted below are Diagrams from the Frisco Diesel Locomotives Vest Pocket Diagrams Rev Y Date 3-78 from the Office of C.M.O.M.P.
Ethan .. this website will convert any measurement you can think of. I have found it very useful....... http://www.printmini.com/calc.shtml Click on "Link to this Site" on the left and follow directions to add the calculator to your desktop. If I did not copy the correct http - let me know and I will try again.
If you're in HO (1/87 scale), divide feet by 87, then multiply that number by 12. For instance if you have something 60 feet long, divide it by 87 (60/87). That gives you .689. Multiply by 12. That gives you 8.628 inches. Feet/87 x 12 = Inches. Tom
Keith .. I said it once before - You sure post some interesting and good stuff. What would have been the purpose of the Pocket Guide? Sure wish that the F's and E's had been included along with all the Alco's.
I checked that link and it does work. Yea and 2 more that weren't on there are the 44 tonner and the NW1
Why worry about using conversions? Just purchase a good scale rule and you are ready to go. Just another one of my policies. Less math more models. El Bob Oh Math Dummy
Sirfold ..... Like most all railroads, the Frisco did a set of locomotive diagrams, both steam and diesel, to allow the troops around the system to keep track of engine numbers, classes, HP, gear ratios, fluid capacities, brake systems, builder, build date, tractive effort, yada yada yada. These were usually in booklets about four inches tall and eight inches wide. They also did similar diagrams for freight and passenger cars, etc. In the early 1950's, the SLSF started to issue simplified diesel locomotive diagram booklets for the diesel roster - these being only 2.5 inches tall by 4.5 inches long. They called these "vest pocket" diagram books because of their small size. To my knowledge, they only did this "downsizing" for the diesel fleet. I don't know how many issues they put out - I have eight different issues in my collection - the first in August, 1952. The posting from Kieth shows the Revision Y issue of March, 1978. I only know of one later one - Rev Z of November, 1978, which I have. Who knows - they might have started with Rev A, so there could have been 26 of them! As far as I know, the GP50's never made it into the vest pocket diagram book. You asked about the E-unit diagrams. Attached FYI is a scan of the three SLSF E-unit sheets. These sheets are from a diagram book issued before the vest pocket diagram booklets came into being. They show a bit more information. I've included the diagram for the original E7's, the later diagram for the rebuilt E7's, and the diagram for the new E8's. Note the last two sheets also list all the "Racehorse" names (even though they all were not race horses!). Notice also that the E7 rebuilds included a regearing, from 55:22 to 57:20 to slow them down to better mate with the new E8's, and to give the E7's a bit more TE. Ken
I picked up the posted Vest Pocket Guide from ebay for $2.99 - just 'cause (Frisco stuff!). The E and F units were not listed because they were long gone by 3/1978. The main reason I share everything I can on this site is so it will be archived electronically.
Thank you Keith and Ken - a really good Post !! It's wonderful to gain new knowledge about the Frisco - had no idea they used these. Bob McKeighan Lenexa, KS
I must go and sit in the corner for a time-out. My age must be showing again. Of course I know why they published the guide. We had "pocket cards" (triple folded printed both sides) that listed aircraft models weight, fuel, tire press, hyd press, gross wts, empty wts, landing wts, fuel cap, yada, yada. Bout 15 items for each model - 7 different models for the Connie alone, 4 on the 727, 5 on the 707, 3 on the 747, and more yadas' for the other makes. Tom - hope you realize -just funning. Keith - I am glad you are posting this stuff for persons like me. Why I love this site so much is the information I gain from it.
Sherrel - As a very frequent "seat warmer" on TWA during the 1980's and 1990's while I was with Monsanto, I tried to get a copy of the TWA "fleet diagrams", or at least a roster listing each aircraft and model number. I had a couple of guys promise to send me one, but it never came. Must have been against the rules or something! Certainly would be today. Ken ps - Did you fly in and out of STL much? If you did, chances are I rode behind you a few times! I did STL to Detroit, Salt Lake, Atlanta, Orange Cy, New Orleans, Portland, New York, Miami and Philly a lot.
My Frisco E-unit diagrams I posted last night are pretty hard to read clearly. I scanned a xerox copy of all three on one page that I used in some articles I authored a while ago. Sorry about that. I looked through my "stacks" this morning and found the three source diagrams. A scan of each individual diagram is posted below ..... much easier to read. Do any of you know any of the details of the MKT E7's for the Texas Special that ran with SLSF 2000 and 2003 on the TS? Does anybody have a diagram of them? I'm interested to see if they were geared 55:22 originally like the SLSF E7's were, and if the MKT then regeared them down to 57:20 when the Frisco regeared 2000-2005? I think I'll pose that question to the Katy H&TS today. Ken
Well, Ken, I may have a few things "buried" somewhere. When I come across them, I will send you some. Was not against any rules that I ever heard. Really is pretty public knowledge. I say buried because of a couple moves in the last 4 years. Have no idea where to start. Will get back to you on the flights. Thanks for re-posting the diagrams. I had spots in my eyes looking at the first ones.
Sir Fold--Good thing there are electronic calculators, or I wouldn't have even gotten TWO decimal places! Tom
Ken--I don't have any Katy gear ratio documents or other info, but from years of looking at photos, I never saw their E-7's running with any other kind of units. Just one or two E-7's by themselves. I've seen consists (On the Texas Special) with their E-8's mixed with F-7B's, PA's, even Frisco E-8's. FYI. Tom