Blind Station or Depot

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  1. rich57

    rich57 Member

    What is considered a "Blind Station and Depot" Never heard of this before
     
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  2. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    By definition of the rule book, a station is a place designated by the timetable by a name. A blind station is a place with only a station sign. There is no depot. The etymology of the term comes from the notion that the blind station ( a place) lacks an agent or operator, and therefore it is unseen by the dispatcher.

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/blind-station-sign.1025/
     
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  3. rich57

    rich57 Member

    Thank you for your response. Is there any listing of Blind Stations or Annotation is a Station Listing as to what Stations are Blind. My interest lies in Kansas Stations
     
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  4. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Attached is a portion of the from the 1907 Station List, which may be found on this web site. Chances are that if it's a PREPAID STATION and if it has no telegraphic call symbol and if no agent/operator is listed for the station, then it is a blind station. In the clipping from the Salem Branch, only Cherry Valley, Steelville, Sligo, Cooks, and Salem have depots The rest are blind.

    1907_station_list.jpeg
     
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  7. rich57

    rich57 Member

    Thank you. This is very helpful. I am collecting images of all of the depots on the Frisco in Kansas and this helps narrow my search. I have quite an extensive collection of depots in Kansas.
     
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  8. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    These Salem branch depots Karl identifies above are all in Missouri.

    K
     
  9. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    I investigated the Salem Branch as a possible V scale (virtual - i.e. computer simulation) hobby route. I imported/created the terrain, placed the map-oriented "survey stakes" for traces of the line that I could find, and went into the Route Building software and looked around. Viewing the bare terrain w/stakes virtually, it sure had some promise... but the idea fizzled. Still, though, a neat area, just not as mountainous as I'd hoped/expected, instead more of a rolling hills region.
     
  10. rich57

    rich57 Member

    What was the purpose of a Blind Station? Was it Freight or Passenger use and did any have sidings?
     
  11. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    As suggested please take a look at the 1907 List of Stations, the 1898 ETT, and subsequent ETT's, which may be located on this site with the search tool. There is no single list that will provide the information that you seek.

    Blind stations may or may not have secondary tracks, such as a passing track, or an "industrial" spur. The blind station may or may not have a platform. A blind station may or may not have a mail crane. Bind Stations may be flag stops for passengers. A Blind Station may be a junction. The 1907 List of Stations and the ETT's will help provide this information.

    For example, from the Sept 28, 1952 River Division ETT, some of the Blind Stations are listed in a separate list thusly:

    ETT_river_9_28_52.jpeg

    Others are listed in the Station Columns. Neelys had a 13 car-length siding and 807 and 808 would stop on flag for passengers. Brand was just a 62 car-length passing track. Bainbridge had a depot which was closed at this time. It had a 67 car-length passing track plus additional side track(s), which had a capacity of 14 car-lengths. A telephone booth replaced the functionality of the depot after it was closed.

    ETT_river_9_28_52_II.jpeg
     
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  12. rich57

    rich57 Member

    Thank You again. I now have a clearer understanding.
     

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