Cape Girardeau, MO, St. Louis Subdivision, MP 131.3

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  1. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Wednesday, June 10, 2015 I was in Cape Girardeau to get pictures of the river front for the backdrop on my layout.

    I took a helicopter ride with Paul Salmon, my cousin's husband, who is a partner in Cape Copters and a certified flight instructor. We flew in a Robinson R44, four place helicopter, to fly low and slow enough to get the best pictures for my use.

    I have provided a sample of a river front shot and a composite of ground-based shots of the quarry at the cement plant that will be on the wall in an access aisle seen across the layout at Marquette Cement. The quarry image will be 12' long x 3' high.

    Incidentally, the shot of the Common Pleas Court House is one of over 200 consecutive shots from right at the Emerson Bridge to just north of Cape Rock. The composite can make a mural backdrop that is about 20 feet long.

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  2. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    That is so cool!

    Both are perfect backdrop shots.

    I bet that was a fun ride.
     
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  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith, that is impressive.

    Very nice shot of the courthouse, the Water Street and Main Street buildings.

    A quarry that long should be most impressive.

    Looking forward to seeing how it all pans out.

    Best Regards,
     
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  4. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    "How it all pans out".

    No pun intended?

    My bolding in quote.
     
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  5. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Well spotted!

    It was not initially intended, but after proofreading, I opted to leave it.
     
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  6. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here are a couple of interesting photographs.

    Look closely in the background of the color photograph and at the reporting marks on the gondola in the other photograph.

    I never knew Marquette had their own rolling stock.

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  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Yes, they had their own cement hoppers for transporting cement to the river terminal for loading onto barges.

    The strange looking car in the first picture was the type of cement hoppers used only on-site.

    They also had their own gondolas, metal and composite, for transporting coal from barges to the crusher for the kilns and their own drop bottom hoppers for hauling gumbo from the gumbo pits south of the plant for use in cement production.

    They were not necessarily consistent on reporting marks; sometimes using MCMCo and sometimes using simply MC.

    Here is another of coal being loaded into a feed hopper for the kilns.

    Marquette Coal Pulverizer Loading 2.jpg
     
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  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Nice photographs.

    Seems as if the cement plant would be a good switching layout.
     
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  9. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Do not think that I had not considered just modeling a very large model of just the cement plant in my space.
     
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  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Take a second look at that color photograph of Marquette's sign and read the scroll.

    It says, "The history of liberty is the history of the limitation of the powers of government." Woodrow Wilson

    That is not an exact quote, but is it an accurate observation.
     
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  11. geep07

    geep07 Member

    Keith,

    Love your picture of your personalized "red drone"!
     
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  12. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    While I was waiting in the office to take the ride with Paul, the gentleman that had just completed a two-hour flight lesson with him came into the office.

    I introduced myself as Keith Robinson and his eyebrows raised and he said, "Oh".

    I then explained that I was not associated with Robinson Helicopters but was a cousin of Paul's wife.
     
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  14. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith,

    I am not certain of the specifics of your question.

    The St. Louis Subdivision was equipped with an overlapped block signals (OBS) system between MP T7+18 poles to MP T135+22 poles.

    These semaphores are part of that installation.

    Let me check to see when they were installed.
     
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  15. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Fred Lynch's "f/8 and Be There" blog for the Southeast Missourian has the following Frisco photo from Cape Girardeau posted:

    http://www.semissourian.com/blogs/flynch/entry/68155

    Since it is daylight, apparently heading southbound and not flying white flags as far as I can make out, I would wager that it is train No 807.

    No date is listed, but based on the Pabst Blue Ribbon (PBR) slogan on the billboard, and having heard that slogan a lot in "The Life of Riley" from late WW II to post-WW II years, i would guess maybe around 1945?

    This does seem like an oddity to have a ten-wheeler assigned to either train No 807 or No 808. This would be a first that I have ever seen.

    I will be interested to see and hear what other River Division aficionados have to say about it.

    Best Regards,

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  16. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris,

    Since you asked, this River Division aficionado will give an answer to your questions. In fact, it could possibly be said, "I was there."

    First, the location of the photograph is just south of the Marquette Cement Plant and its employee natatorium, along old 74 Highway under the line of bluffs that used to be there. The billboard identifies the location, as well as the approximate date as you mention.

    The year is actually 1952, when the Mississippi River flooded all of downtown Cape Girardeau and the Frisco trackage, thus splitting the River Division in two. And this is definitely train No 807, returning southbound shortly after terminating at Cape as train No 808 northbound.

    That spring was the occasion of my Trinity Lutheran School kindergarten class outing from Cape Girardeau to Chaffee, MO, with a picnic there in the central park and return to Cape via a St. Louis-Cape chartered bus. I have a photograph of the class, my mom and me boarding the Sunnyland at the freight depot since the passenger depot was flooded.

    In fact, the train backed into the spur serving the old creamery to discharge and load passengers, express and mail. My class ate our box lunches on the freight platform because the train was so late backing in all the way from Chaffee. And that is the story portrayed in the Missourian photograph.

    While the track was flooded, train No 808 would proceed northbound from Memphis as far as Chaffee, to be turned on the Rockview Wye. Then the E8A diesel would be replaced by an available steam engine, which would back the train twelve miles to Cape and return as southbound No 807. Then the diesel would again take charge of the train to Memphis.

    Why the steam engine?

    Look at the photograph and notice the water level and spray. The water would short out a diesel's motors, but the steamer plowed right through. The ten wheeler was normally power for one of the freight locals out of Chaffee and simply happened to be on hand for the job.

    Do not ask me to remember what I ate for dinner last night, but I can remember every detail and minute of that experience. It was my only contact with Frisco steam in service.

    I was a hooked railfan for sure, the disease being "terminal, but fortunately not fatal".

    Ken McElreath
     
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  17. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken,

    The odds of someone here actually "being there" is quite incredible, and I am exceedingly grateful that you have shared the story.

    I am particularly amazed that "Frony" had the inspiration - or the insight - to place himself at a point where he could get a photograph of what is presumably one of the last steam-powered runs of "Sunnyland". Certainly the only instance I have ever seen of this type of motive power being used on either trains No 807 or No 808.

    Is the creamery the one-story building on the southwest corner of William Street and Aquamsi / South Main Street across from the current depot?

    I believe I have seen a spur there on old Sanborn maps, but I do not recall the use of that building siding.

    As far as I am concerned, you have remembered the important stuff, Ken. I guess that is what they call a flashbulb memory or recollection.

    Again, many thanks on behalf of many of us for sharing.

    Best Regards,
     
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  18. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris,

    Yes, I think the building may still be there.

    As I recall, there was a sign painted on the north brick side of the building, "Sugar Creek Creamery". My mom was raised in Egypt Mills, and she told me that she and her father would frequently drive their horses and wagon to the station at Bainbridge.

    They took cans of cream to be picked up by the southbound train. This was possibly the Sunnyland, but more likely the Memphis Express Local. The cream was to be delivered to the creamery in Cape.

    I remember playing as a youngster on the freight station covered platform at Bainbridge, opposite Egypt Mills.

    Ken
     
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  19. Cape Rider

    Cape Rider Member

    Marquette Cement had a set of short wooden open hopper cars for hauling gumbo, a grey clay, up from the "swamps".

    They were similar to ore cars. They used a simple link and pin for the couplers. I worked with them at the unloading facility in the summer of 1969. One pulled the pin to release a car and threw a chain in front of the wheels of the next car to chock the still loaded cars. Loads were winched up to the top of a elevated platform with a cable reel.

    It was unloaded with poles through the bottom dump. We applied cement dust to unstick the clay occasionally. When the car was empty, a co-worker would walk down and throw the track switch at the bottom to the empty line. The hopper was then pushed off with the cable attached to haul it back down for another car.

    It was a great learning experience.

    Don Neumeyer
     
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    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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