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Cape Girardeau, MO, St. Louis Subdivision, MP 131.3

Discussion in 'St Louis Subdivision' started by chris, Mar 10, 2002.

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  1. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I cannot make out any identifying details in the original that cannot be seen in the posted scan.
     
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    klrwhizkid, Oct 25, 2011
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  2. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken or Keith,

    Can you make out the number of the Railway Post Office (RPO) car that was riding behind E8A SLSF 2021 on the Sunnyland in Ken's photograph?

    Ken
     
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  3. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken,,

    It "might" be SSF 202.

    It is most like the 1928 RPO cars SLSF 201-214.

    Tom
     
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    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020), Oct 25, 2011
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  4. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken,

    On the original and in the scanned image it looks like SLSF 206.
     
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    klrwhizkid, Oct 25, 2011
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  5. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    "Shops" area of Cape Girardeau, MO

    Ken, Keith,

    On further review SLSF 206 does look like a better match.

    My photograph of MOW SLSF 105645, which is former SLSF 206, has the same replaced roof vent as the car at Cape Girardeau.

    Tom
     
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    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020), Oct 25, 2011
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  6. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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    yardmaster, Nov 17, 2011
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  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris,

    The process of tearing down the old Missouri Dry Dock and Repair machine shop began in March, 2011 and was complete by the late April.

    It too, succumbed to the wrecking ball like Morrison Ice and Fuel this year. I am sad that the old machine shop is gone. I have happy memories of entering the shop with my grandfather, Elmer Robinson, and visiting with one of the machinists there, Brian Hassel of Paducah, Kentucky.

    Mr. Hassel introduced our family to trout fishing in Yellowstone National Park.

    I have not been able to track down the date when that building was built, but it was sometime between 1931 and 1940.
     
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    klrwhizkid, Nov 17, 2011
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  8. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Rush Island unit coal train

    The fine folks at the Southeast Missourian newspaper have dug into their archives to provide us access to aerials of the industries along the tracks in Cape.

    Thanks to Sharon Sanders, librarian, and Fred Lynch, photographer, for posting them to their Special Orders page for anyone to purchase. Links direct to the two folders are listed below.

    http://semissourian.mycapture.com/m...vent=1346042&CategoryID=29765&ListSubAlbums=0

    http://semissourian.mycapture.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=1368145&CategoryID=29765

    The photographs posted are a small representative sample, not a complete compendium of what they have. I spent some time with Sharon, selecting specific photographs that I was interested in.

    There are many more available to those with specific interest.
     
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    klrwhizkid, Dec 5, 2011
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  9. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    One picture I have that I seem to have missed posting is one of two GP7s SLSF 518 and SLSF 592, headed southbound with caboose SLSF 86 at Trail of Tears Park, north of Cape.

    The picture was taken about 1963, probably on a Sunday, since Sundays were when the family would go for a ride and end up with a picnic lunch somewhere. This is one of those occasions that my dad saw something unusual, grabbed his camera and snapped a quick shot.

    Note that all of the train crew are in the cabs of the locomotives and no one is riding in the caboose. This is most likely the southbound local No 833 with no traffic from Lindenwood to Chaffee after running No 834 north the day before.

    SLSF GP7 592-518 & Cab 86.jpg
     
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    klrwhizkid, Mar 29, 2012
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  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Somehow I missed posting this picture of RS-1 SLSF 111 at Cape Girardeau that was taken by Ken McElreath in 1963.

    The aerial photograph indicates where the engine shed and RS-1 SLSF 111 were located.

    Location of engine shed.JPG

    SLSF #111 RS-1 at Cape.jpg
     
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    klrwhizkid, Mar 30, 2012
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  11. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith,

    All of these are great photographs.

    I have not seen the aerial one of the engine house.

    Do you know the two industries just to the west?

    One looks to be a bulk oil terminal.

    The one just to the north with the conveyor escapes my memory or any of my notes.

    Best Regards,
     
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    yardmaster, Apr 2, 2012
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  12. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris,

    The business on the corner was McDonald Concrete before they moved out onto Broadview.

    Later, Standley Bin and Conveyor was on that southeast corner of Aquamsi.

    The bulk oil dealer just south of McDonald Concrete is the Phillips Petroleum Company bulk plant.

    I believe the propane tanks are spill-over from the Uregas distributor that is out of picture to the northwest.

    The bulk oil dealer across the street to the north is the Conoco dealer, and of course, American White Cross is the large building to the north.

    Note, if you follow the tracks to the northeast, there is a stub end siding southward that has a hopper dump trestle.
     
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    klrwhizkid, Apr 2, 2012
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  13. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    This is not directly Cape Girardeau related, but in the region of the Commerce Branch.

    I found an old letter written to me by my now deceased cousin. She gave me the following information from her father, my great-uncle, concerning the Thebes river crossing.

    "Thebes was originally called 'Sparhawk Landing', after the Sparhawk brothers who ran the Mississippi River ferry at Thebes. At one time Thebes had three train depots, a movie theater, six or eight taverns, a hotel and several stores. A powder factory town south of Thebes was called Fayville during WWI but before that it was called Santa Fe.

    On the Missouri side of the river, the ferry landing was called Grayville. When the Thebes bridge was built, the depot was moved to Illmo, then the stores left and it is now called Gray's Point."

    The three depots at Thebes, IL were likely the Illinois Central (IC), Missouri Pacific (MP) and Chicag0 and Eastern Illinois (C&EI). The C&EI depot survives as a residence today. The Illmo, IL depot was a joint Missouri Pacific (MP) and St. Louis Southwestern (SSW) operation.

    Ken McElreath
     
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    kenmc, Jul 19, 2012
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  14. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thebes depots top to bottom include the following.

    Photograph 1 - The Southern Illinois and Missouri Bridge Company (SIMBCO) depot at the east bridge approach.
    Photograph 2 - The Thebes Hotel.
    Photograph 3 - The west side of the Illinois Central (IC) depot
    Photograph 4 - The IC depot looking north.
    Photograph 5 - The Chicago and Eastern Illinois (C&EI) depot looking west.
    Photograph 6 - The St. Louis Southwestern (SSW) aka Cotton Belt depot at Graysboro, IL.

    ThebesDepot.JPG

    CEIThebesA.jpg

    rrbuilding.jpg

    ThebesICdepot.jpg

    10348.jpg

    graysboro1900s-ssw.jpg
     
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    timothy_cannon, Jul 19, 2012
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  15. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Here is a photograph I took at Thebes, IL of all that was left in the early 1980s.

    This was the C&EI depot looking north. It is all gone now.

    The whole town of Fayville mentioned by Ken was literally blown to bits when the gunpowder factory blew up. You can still see the foundations though on google earth.

    Thebes1980z.jpg
     
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    timothy_cannon, Jul 19, 2012
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  16. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Ken -
    I, for one, really appreciated seeing this information. If one looks at the fact that the Yoakum Empire included the Frisco and C&EI, then I think it's relevant.

    Considering that timetables of the early 1900s showed Cape Girardeau/Chaffee passenger service to Chicago via Thebes, and that the evidence seems to point to completion of the Thebes bridge as the impetus behind a new Cape & River Division terminal (Chaffee), it's all quite relevant.

    Best Regards,
     
    yardmaster, Jul 20, 2012
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  17. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Saw this scene on my way to work Thursday morning.

    It is cool that stern wheeler riverboats are still docking at Cape Girardeau.

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    Jim James, Jul 19, 2013
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  18. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim,

    Neat photograph.

    Thanks for sharing this.
     
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    Sirfoldalot, Jul 19, 2013
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  19. FriscoCharlie

    FriscoCharlie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Frisco depots at Cape Girardeau, MO.

    cape_giradeau.jpg

    cape_giradeau2.jpg
     
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    FriscoCharlie, Jul 23, 2013
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  20. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    The train in the stub track on the river side of the depot is either the daily train to Poplar Bluff or Commerce, waiting for a southbound connection.

    Ken McElreath
     
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    kenmc, Jul 24, 2013
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