Signals of the West Bottoms

Discussion in 'Divisions' started by Boomer John, Dec 26, 2011.

  1. Boomer John

    Boomer John Member

    Several weeks ago I posted a blog concerning the frustration of trying to install signals on my West Bottoms. After two weeks of hit and miss, they are in. Here is a picture (poor iphone quality) of a local pushing a GBW boxcar into Weber Paper crossing the MOPAC. SLSF is protected buy a dwarf signal and the MOPAC mainline by a two position pole signal. Hard to tell, but the LEDs do work and switch opposite red/green.

    This is really a great thing about this hobby. My early track wiring looks like I did it with a welder. After several tries I am now wiring LEDS with about 1/16 inch of connector to work with. There have many things in the last two years that have started this way, going from it can't be done to wow that was satisfying. The pole signal almost went in the trash several times, but now I am quite pleased with my efforts.

    John
     

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  2. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Nice looking layout. Did you scratchbuild that bridge or is it a kit? I want one.
     
  3. Boomer John

    Boomer John Member

    Jim:

    The bridge is straight Walthers, cut to fit the space. The KC PCC car going across is next to the old Rudy Patrick building. I have a picture of this circa early
    1950's and tried to duplicate it. I remember riding those street cars downtown; buying clothes for school at the Jones Store, eating a the Pioneer Grill or Italian Gardens. And of course a peek in the window at Joe Falk's toy store and maybe go in and pick up the new 1934 Ford coupe from AMT if I can come up with $1.50.

    John
     
  4. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks for posting John,
    I would like you to maybe expand a little on the signal part of this, it is a most cool part of your set up here. How do the LED'S change? Is it the different polarity (FWD-REV) or do they turn after the wheels pass over the interlocking?
    I am seeking info on simple signal systems that are DC friendly:D
    Thanks
    Tom Holley
     
  5. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    John, things are looking great. Perserverance is the key! Keep us posted...

    Best Regards,
     
  6. Boomer John

    Boomer John Member

    Tom:

    Nothing fancy here. I hooked the signals up to a spdt switch. The signals are from Oregon Rail Supply. The dwarfs are pretty easy, just hooked 22 guage wire up to the prongs, negative is in the center. You have to use a resister (supplied) on the negative lead. The outside prongs are for red/greeen, you determine which one by trial and error. The pole signal is hooked up the same, except you are dealing with guage 30 something wire which will drive you crazy. No detectors or anything like that. The MOPAC is a main line and always greeen. When a Frisco freight gets to the dwarf it must stop and sound it's horn. The tower operator (me) throws the switch and turns MOPAC to red, Frisco to green. After the Frisco passes it is reversed. There is also a KCT crossing south of this crossing (to the right) protected by dwarfs. So switching in here can be a challenge not blocking the crossings or streets.

    John
     
  7. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Wow. Your operating sessions sound very realistic. Is there a rule limiting the time that a street can be blocked? Do the locos have DCC operated horns? Seems like operations can be as detailed as scenery.
     
  8. Boomer John

    Boomer John Member

    Jim:

    I am planning my first op session in January. Here is what I have in mind. The session will last 90 minutes. We will not be on a fast clock, slow operation is the key.
    However I will start a stop watch (my iphone). Prior to the operaitng session I will randomly pick maybe 5 two minutes blocks where the MOPAC must remain clear.
    So let's say my first block is at 12 minutes into the session. If an operater stops at the dwarf at 11 minutes and blows his horn for clearance from Tower 2, he will have to wait until 14 minutes to get the green signal since 11 minutes would be cutting it close to get across. There will also be a couple of trains on the KCT crossing to the south to avoid.

    I am also looking at fusees at the major streets and padlocks on the switches that must be unlocked before being thrown. With that, setting scale speed limit of 10 mph and using Preiser figures as crew members to drop and pick up it could take some time for a simple three car train. That is my goal. Not for everyone, no crack limiteds here, just gritty railroad work in the trenches.

    Yes, my locomotives (Walthers FM's) are DCC sound equiped.

    John
     
  9. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks John. I guess you saw the magazine article about using a red fiber optic for a fusee? Speaking of iPhones, I use my Ambient Sounds app to make sound mixes for my branch. For example swamp sounds mixed with a slow train sound and a steam engine sound mixed with a buzz saw for the Zalma sawmill scene. Just something I sometimes listen to while working on the railroad.
     
  10. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks John, for explaining it, I got a place it might give that a go with.

    Tom Holley
     

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