Richard Crabtree posted this image of Frisco 509, 4-4-0 American class locomotive. "Here we see Frisco No. 509 4-4-0 Eight Wheeler ~Posing with his pride steed is Frisco Engineer Charles Prewett, under the cab, along with some other unknown Frisco employees. Photo is circa 1880-90 taken at Sapulpa, Oklahoma." I have looked through my rosters, and cannot find this locomotive. Any thoughts? I would date the photo circa 1896-1901.
Hi Karl: I cannot help you offhand with the missing number on the roster, but that picture cannot be post 1900 unless the engine is in violation of the "drop dead" date of the mandated switchover to safety couplers with knuckles. That date was December 31, 1899. The construction and fittings of the engine indicates it might have been constructed toward the late 1870s or early 1880s, and the smoke box extended at a later date. It is equipped with an air compressor so that dates it to be at least mid-1880s, but likely later. Frisco was still taking delivery of non-air, short smoke box engines with crosshead water pumps in the early 1880s. I have an "all time" roster that I obtained somewhere in the dateless past. It is in .txt format and is very difficult to use. The columns do not correctly align. etc. But it may have the information you are looking for. I will attempt to attach the .txt file to this post. Andre
According to Andre's file, that is Kansas City, Fort Scott and Memphis (KCFS&M) 509 It was built by Pittsburg Locomotive Works, builder number 1474, in 1893.
The Frisco 509, nee Memphis Road 159 was a 4-6-0 ten-wheeler. Richard’s photograph depicts a 4-4-0 American type locomotive. Based on the "Frisco Line" Coonskin and the pilot coupler link, the time frame of the photograph is very narrow. The first side-door cabooses appeared about 1898-99.
Well, assuming the dates you have on the side door caboose, and assuming it did not come off a subsidiary and was earlier vintage, then that pretty much puts it at 1898-1899.
That is a very interesting picture. Good group detective work. I like that file that Andre posted, however it would be easier to navigate in an Excel file So I took a few minutes to build an Excel worksheet from the txt file. Everything is now in a table format that is easy to sort and filter by any of the column headers.
You apparently have some spare time on your hands. Congratulations on using it very constructively! Just do not let your "significant other" know about this effort. We shall remain silent.
Keys to happiness: 1. Have your layout in a detached building. 2. Have a big enough collection that she does not notice new pieces showing up.
I would add to that list: 3. Ensure her hobby interest is supported sufficiently that she is distracted. Quilting is a huge distraction, and I have noticed a lot of modelers' wives are quilters.
My wife is also a quilter, she knows she cannot complain about $$$ spent on trains. Quilting is also an expensive avocation!
.xlsx is for Microsoft Excel 2007 and newer. .xls is for Microsoft Excel 2003 and older. I have attached another version in the .xls format for those that have older versions of Excel. There is a free program called Open Office that should be able to open the sheet, although I cannot guarantee that the table functions will work. https://www.openoffice.org/