Fascia. Stain or Paint?

Discussion in 'General' started by Jim James, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I will soon add the 1x4 fascia board along the border of my 2" foamboard 4x8 layout. I've spent some time and effort on this little railroad and I want it to be attractivly framed. I am considering using either wood stain or painting it. Now I know in the end it boils down to whichever I want but I would like hear some opinions on the subject. Dark or light stain? Painted green or brown or black? Barn board might look neat but I've already bought the 1x4s.
     
  2. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    Jim,

    Stain. No Paint. Use the opposite color for the trim color. If the border area is a light color, use a dark stain. If the border are is dark, use a lighter stain. The dark stain near a light border will cause the scenery to "pop" out at the viewer. Same with the lighter stain working against a dark border. Paint is just boring. A nice stain with varnish, polished, and even an engraved plaque centered with all the details you want to include will set that Zalma Branch off just right (IMHO). As for the wood, dark stains take to Cherry, while lighter stains take better to oak or pine. Pine however is soft and absorbs the stain far more than any other wood, so it might take more applications of stain to get where you want to be. I'd say Cherry or Oak.
     
  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim,
    Model Railroad Planning by Kalmbach has had various articles over the years dealing with the treatment of fascia. If you are leaning more toward your Zalma Branch as a "display" module, I think something that's stained might look more aesthetically pleasing.

    I'm of the opinion that a larger layout with valances above and fascia below are best painted in a color that compliments the ground cover - it seems to draw the eye to the layout itself.

    Best Regards,
     
  4. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks guys. I will stain it and see how it goes. This fascia will make the foam board more rigid so that I can take it outside and to shows( if ever).
     
  5. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    I Have so far, been painting mine the same color as my dirt, but I see that there needs to be some Greens and Yellows in there too. A dry rolling or brushing of Greens/Yellows might be interesting on top of the Earth tones.
    Tom Holley
     
  6. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    I am a paint person.

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  7. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Rick,
    Your Green, let me know, I have too much Brown.:D:D
    Tom Holley
     
  8. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    I can understand paint for large fixed layouts, but Jim's is portable, and needs the extra edge of flair that stain will give it. A larger layout needs a subtle approach as in the pictures already posted. The paint acts as a bench work minimizer. On a 4x6, everything counts, especially since it could be at a show, a living room, or any other venue where everything is under much more scrutiny due to size. Jim, I still stand by my first post. The choice is up to you. It's your railroad. You know where you'll be and what you'll do with the pike. I can't wait to see whatever you do because I know your choice will be stellar.
     
  9. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    Tom,

    It is a rare day I am able to find anything connected with my layout as fast as I found the paint sample for my fascia.

    I use Behr Italian Olive (S-H-390) in a satin latex enamel. Some call this David Barrow green.

    Good luck.
     
  10. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    My visit to Rick's fantastic layout was VERY impressive! I liked everything I saw. I'd vote for his color scheme for the side fascias!

    It all blended well with all the KU Jayhawk stuff. RockChalk!

    Ken
     
  11. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Rick,
    That helps a bunch, I might get a quart and see how it does here, it is a good color, wish I had been there for the op session with Ken W. and all.
    And yes, by all means Jim, it's your choice. And I am also sure it will be good.:D I can't figure out what to do with this thing, much less be of much help to you :D:D.
    Never really thought about all this fascia color as much as I should have, very interest info.
    Thanks to all,
    Tom Holley|-|
     
  12. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks to everyone. This forum is among my most useful hobby tool! I stained one 8' side tonight. I used Min Wax Walnut and tomorrow I'll put a finish on it and attach it to the Greenbrier (summer) side. I like the look so far. I'm thinking about decorative bolts down the sides and two miniature grab irons on each end. Kinda like a flatcar frame :) The grab irons would also make it easier to carry around. Anybody have any ideas to add?
    If I get tired of the stained look I still have the option of painting. Maybe Frisco flatcar color?
     
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  13. SAFN SAAP

    SAFN SAAP Member

    This may sound goofy, but since you are working with a 4x6 platform, maybe you should make the base a scaled flat car, pre-1911 Safety Era, with FRISCO markings. Now that would be totally cool!
     
  14. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I really like the idea of making a portablelayout take on the look of a Frisco flat car.
     
  15. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Speaking firsthand, this is a very suitable, aesthetically-pleasing shade for those modeling the Midwest.

    Ken Wulfert, let it not be said that my sweater vest from a few years ago constituted vandalism to Rick's layout room:

    http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=8117&d=1237724814

    Best Regards,
     
  16. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Chris - I don't know, I think Rick ought to keep cats out of his layout room!

    K
     
  17. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    This reminds me that it has been nearly three years (March 2009) since Mr. Abernathy worked on the Frisco Northern Division|-|. (Ethan has been here 4 times in the last three years, but who is counting?) You along with the Frisco nation are welcome to come and operate.

    I hope your not uncomfortable being only 20 miles from Lawrence. :mad: We don't seem to have a basketball team this year so you have nothing to fear (but fear itself). I may have to come to Columbia and get you. If I do, I will wear my gigantic Jayhawk head.

    I am up for another Frisco nation session. The more the better.:cool:
     
  18. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I'm also a paint person. I have a small can of medium brown paint I used for my former N scale layout, but I'm leaning more toward a darker color (since it's close to the Blacklands area of Texas, perhaps black to represent the soil, or a darker brown). I'll be using Masonite fascia on the front of the benchwork, so painting, IMO, is the only alternative.
     
  19. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    My two cents: Stain for furniture, paint for a layout fascia.

    Tom G.
     
  20. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    To me this is a tough one because Jim is using 2X4's or 1X4's so the fascia is only between 3 1/2" and 4" deep. Also, he says that he plans to make this portable. Stain is far more forgiving to nicks and chips than paint especially if it is a light color. I have always liked the "David Barrow Green" that Rick uses because it blends with the landscape very well. Having said that, it may not blend with the winter side which is predominately brown tones. If this were my decision, I would try several different colors and then choose. Just my two cents worth.
     

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