Eastern Division - Rolla Sub - Salem Branch Industry Schematics

Discussion in 'Eastern Div Track Charts/Industry Schematics' started by klrwhizkid, Feb 23, 2017.

  1. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Attached Schematics include:
    C.V. Jct, Henpeck, Sankey, Steelville, Keysville, Wesco, Hitch, Cooks, Bangert, Howes, Salem
     

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  2. wpmoreland719

    wpmoreland719 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Great stuff. Thanks for posting.

    Pat Moreland,
    Wesco, Missouri
     
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  3. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    How are you doing Pat?
     
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  4. wpmoreland719

    wpmoreland719 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Hello, Tom. I'm doing well. Enjoying life out here in the country along the Meramec River and the old branch line. As for work, things are pretty busy on the regulatory side of the industry, and I'll be heading out to Colorado next month for MP&E recurrency training at the US DOT's training center near Pueblo. Wish it was in Grand Junction, but I guess it's too difficult to build a big loop of test track in the mountains!

    Pat Moreland,
    Wesco, Missouri
     
  5. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

  6. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    My Bro-in-Law fired on the Branch in steam and early dizmal days before he moved up to St Louis and worked at/out of Lindenwood.
     
  7. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith is spot on.

    The industry schematics do need a direction arrow to orient the crews with regard to time table direction, which on the Salem Branch is indeed E-W, i.e. Salem is railroad west of Cuba. The compass is irrelevant with regard to the ETT. Subway schematics and the like bear no resemblance to these industry schematics, since these are tied to the ETT.

    The Passenger Train Journal did a couple of articles about Frisco passenger trains, and the articles noted that the Frisco numbered its trains on the KC-B’ham line contrary to standard practice... that being eastbound trains had even number and westbound trains had odd numbers. The author of the article failed to note that the KC-B’ham line was a N-S railroad.

    In geodetic terms its all about the CRS, i.e., the Coordinate Reference System
     
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  8. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Charles, the use of non-Frisco documents to support your case is irrelevant and obtuse. The Frisco created the Employee Timetables and the Industry Schematics using the same directional perspective. Railroad East/West or North/South do not necessarily follow the compass points on any railroad in the United States. It may be confusing to someone in the general population like you, but those directions were determined as lines were created.

    If you actually look at the ETT I linked to, you will note that Cuba is at MP 86.8 (86.8 miles West of St. Louis) on the Rolla Sub, and listed as MP 86.8 (86.8 miles West of St. Louis) on the Salem Branch. If you follow the WESTWARD column (distance from St Louis) down to Salem, you will see that Salem is at MP 126.8; forty Railroad Miles WEST from Cuba. The WEST indications on the Industry Schematics indicate Railroad WEST, not compass west.

    (That's the sound of a keyboard drop. Similar to a microphone drop.)
     
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  9. I have a question about the Salem schematic. If looking at the left side of the page, is that the end of track?
     
  10. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter


    Timetable West is toward Salem
     
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  11. Smacks forehead ... I have my moments. That wasn’t one of them.
     
  12. I went looking for Dads notes about the Salem Branch and found these - there may be more....probably about 1964.
    REM_ Salem Branch.JPG
     

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