Delta, MO - Track Chart Or Track Plan - Inquiry

Discussion in 'Hoxie Subdivision' started by matt999, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. matt999

    matt999 Member

    Hi guys,

    Does anyone have a track chart or simple track plan of the layout of Delta, MO where the Frisco interchanged with the St. Louis Southwestern (SSW) or Cotton Belt and Missouri Pacific (MP)?

    Thanks for your help.

    Matt
     
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  2. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I am afraid that I do not have any track charts for the Hoxie Subdivision, but perhaps this 1963 USGS 7.5 minute topo sheet will be of use.

    The Frisco had but a simple siding with a capacity of 34 car-lengths, and it had several interchange tracks with the MP and SSW.

    Although Delta was almost due west of Chaffee and about 3.5 miles away as the crow flies, by rail it was it was nearly 11.4 miles away.

    Note the pool-table top flatness of the topography. The elevation did not vary by more than 10 feet between Nash and Delta.

    The topographic relief between the embayment floor and Hickory Ridge is a paltry 200 feet.
     

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  3. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Matt,

    Here is the old St. Louis Southwestern (SSW) or Cotton Belt-Missouri Pacific (MP) diamond at Delta, MO on Christmas Day, 1994.

    The vantage point looks to the north-northwest up the Missouri Pacific line. The gate protected against the MP.

    The old SL-SF Hoxie Subdivision would have crossed the MP line approximately 20-25 yards north of the SSW/MP diamond.

    It has been a few years since I went this route to see my grandmother, but at last check they had pulled up the diamond but I cannot recall if the gate was still there.

    I hear the old MP line between Gordonville and Delta has been sold for scrap and will be pulled up quite soon.
     

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  4. Track chart for Delta, MO.
     

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  5. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks for posting this.

    I wish you had track charts for Brownwood, Greenbrier and Zalma, MO.

    I model these towns circa 1915.
     
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  6. Here is Brownwood, MO.

    I will get a better copy of it and look for your other locations.

    Brent
     

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  7. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Man, that is beautiful!

    I am glad I got my trackwork at Brownwood laid correctly.

    You will never know how much I appreciate this.
     
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  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I forgot to mention Richardson, MO.

    I bet you have never heard of that long gone place.

    It was between Brownwood, MO and Greenbrier, MO.
     
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  9. Here is the branch to Zalma, MO.
     

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  10. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Very nice but I am not seeing the 8 mile stretch going north from Brownwood, MO to Zalma, MO which is the section I have modeled.

    It should have Richardson, MO, then Greenbrier, MO and dead ends at Zalma, MO.

    It crosses the Castor a River between Greenbrier and Zalma.

    You sure do have some treasures!
     
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  11. Here are a few more.
     

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  12. Here is the last one for Zalma, MO.
     

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  13. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Matt, you're the man!

    Saved the best image for last. :)

    I have learned at least two things.

    a) My Brownwood water tank is on the wrong side of the tracks. I have already corrected that.
    b) My siding at Richardson is on the wrong side but I may just leave that as is unless it starts gnawing at me too much.

    I have been modeling this branch line for several years now and these are the first official track charts I have seen.

    I have used old photographs, books and on site "archeology" for references so this is a big help.

    Thanks a million.
     
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  14. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Wow...35lb and 40lb rail.

    American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) 35 lbs rail has 3-5/16" base and height.

    ASCE 40 lbs rail has a 3-1/2" base and height.

    In HO-scale 40 lbs rail is roughly code 40.

    In O-scale it is about code 72.

    Jim,

    That angle bar that you found; what is its length and height?
     
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  15. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    18" long by 2" high.
     
  16. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I admit that I do not understand all the information or numbers on these track charts.
     
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  17. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim,

    That bar would fit 35-45 lbs rail.

    Very nice.
     
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  18. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Wow. I hold my little relic in even higher regards now.

    My small layout endeavor has truly been a learning experience and without this forum and its fine members, I would still be in the dark.

    Thanks everyone.
     
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  19. gjslsffan

    gjslsffan Staff Member Staff Member

    Wow Jim that a real Gem there.

    That 35-45 pound rail is almost as small as used in some of these old mines around here.
     
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  20. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I bet so.

    I wonder if it kept the original rail from 1887 or if it ever got replaced.

    Here is a picture of the relocated water tank.

    Old 4-4-0 SLSF 97 rides the rails again.

    [​IMG]
     
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