CTC And Dispatchers Brick Office Building - Newburg, MO, MP 119.1 - Rolla And Lebanon Subs - Inquiry

Discussion in 'Interlocking Towers & Facilities' started by frisco1522, Nov 26, 2008.

  1. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Does anyone have a clue as to when the brick dispatcher's office and CTC building was built at Newburg?

    I'm also hunting for any info that I can dig up for modeling the town in 1943.

    I am NOT going to do the remodeled version of the depot.

    That's just too hideous for me.
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  2. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter


    As I have a lot of stuff on Newburg, I'll look for a specific date for the CTC building.

    One of the articles I have on the 1944 rebuilding of the Dixon Hill route mentions a lot of work needed to relocate the CTC on that portion of the railroad. Thus, one could assume that since CTC was there 1943 and earlier, the CTC building would have been there as well during that time. I'm assuming it controlled distances both ways out of Newburg. If you are going to do Newburg in 1943, I'd say odds are the building would have been there then.

    I'll look thru my stuff and let you know if I hit any firm reference. I seem to recall a Frisco Employee Magazine article you gave me a copy of years ago about the CTC building.

    Do you recall that?

    I wonder what happened to Jan's outstanding model of the Newburg "Texaco Station" version of the depot?

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  3. w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021)

    w3hodoug (Doug Hughes RIP 03/24/2021) 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re the C.T.C. Building in Newburg. Here's a paragraph from FMIG LINES 104, page 41:

    "The C.T.C. machine is located in the dispatcher's office at Newburg, in a new 20-ft. by 45-ft. one-story fireproof building, of concrete and brick. The illuminated track diagram near the top of the panel includes a track-occupancy indication lamp to repeat each OS switch detector track circuit

    They repeat each section of signal track main line opposite a siding, and repeat each station-to-station block between two sidings. In a vertical line above each of the station-to-station block-occupancy lamps there are two white lamps, the lower one with an arrow pointing to the right (westward) and the upper one with an arrow pointed to the left (eastward)."

    As taken from the April 22, 1944 issue of RAILWAY AGE.

    So much for "east to the right".

    I also seem to remember Alan reprinting the C.T.C. article from Frisco First in the All Aboard museum newsletter. It included a photo of the building. You can probably find it on Dr. Mike's web site.

    Happy hunting. I'd assume it was there for most of your WW II chosen era.

    We don't know what it looked like from the street side, nor do we care. It'll be on the back side from your aisle.


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  4. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Frisco.org Supporter


    Building on Doug's and my earlier comments, I found my issue of "Frisco First", Volume 9, Number 2, June-July, 1944. The issue that has the article in it on the Newburg CTC installation that I recalled.

    The article, starting on page 4, notes that CTC was installed and put in service "several months ago", and implies that the CTC building was built as part of the new system. So early 1944 or, more likely, sometime in 1943, looks good for when the CTC building was built and opened in Newburg.

    Another way to check would be to contact the Newburg Historical Society.

    Remember them from our Newburg visits in the 1980s?

    Their little museum building is where caboose SLSF 1111 is located. They are coordinated with the Phelps County Historical Society, so I know they still exist. The building was locked when I visited Newburg in April, but it looked very much like the group was still active.

    I did look through my two Mary Alice Beemer books on Newburg history to see if she had any reference in them to the CTC building. Alas, she does not.

    For those of you who are not familiar with Newburg and don't know what in the world we are talking about, see the picture on page 232 in Joe Collias' book Frisco Power. It shows the brand new trainset for "The Meteor", behind E7As (EA7s) SLSF 2005 and 2002, taken in Newburg while on a demonstration run in April, 1948. The CTC building is in the foreground, just above the nose of the lead E7A.

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  5. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Thanks Ken and Doug,

    I dug out my copy of the Frisco First and found the article, and Doug's mention of the 25' x 40' building was a big help. I've got enough to go on now.

    BTW, the "crude video" was about in the location where the main will be in Newburg. I need to finish both ends of the benchwork, then I can start plotting and scheming.

    Right now, the benchwork is 3' x 18' and is running diagonally across the basement.

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  6. bcs123

    bcs123 Member

    Next time you all come to Newburg and want to get in the museum go to Blues Market they have a key.
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  7. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    Hey thanks a lot, I always thought someone had to be at the museum for it to be open.

    Wonder if I could drag my computer and scanner in there or if anything is available for copying?
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  8. bcs123

    bcs123 Member

    There is some pretty cool stuff in there but I don't know if any of it would be worth scanning.

    It would be your preference I suppose.
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