This hobby is addictive! Just bought another PRR locomotive - a P2K GP7 to go with my PRR stable: F7, GP9, SD7, SD9, S1, SW1 and C-liner(2). Wonder if the GP7 will be another "ca-thunk" adventure. Ken
Never enough GP 7's or GP 40-2's. You just can't have too many. Like never too much quality Scotch. Just the thought of having too many of any of these things could upset the extremely delicate balance of opposing forces, or the natural order of things, it just ain't right|-| Cheers, Tom Holley
Sherrel - I said I had enough Frisco GP7's ..... I have five (500, 502, 572, 620, 632). This new PRR addition will be the only other GP7 I have. I'll enjoy the subtle differences between the PRR GP7 & GP9 just like I enjoy the subtle differences between the PRR SD7 and SD9. Ahhh - first generation diesels! Nice. Ken
Amen Bro! With all the troubles in the world today, we just can't risk upsetting the natural order of things. No way! Ken (sipping)
What are we doing with posts about PRR diesels on Frisco.org? Didn't we chastise a young man for straying from the Frisco subject matter. Time to put the Scotch away.
Conrail had run-through units on the Frisco "Chrysler turn" down to the Chrysler plant in Fenton. In my make-believe Frisco world, so did the PRR. Hence, I have a PRR stable - both locomotives and cabin cars. I like the PRR - except for the fact they rarely washed anything. PRRT&HS is a great historical society. K
Yes .. Have looked at quite a few photos and such. Fact is: The E-8's that are running around are really beautifully taken care of.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news folks but check out the TRRA´s #69 "book" on the Texas Special. Those Pennsy Pullman cars in Texas Special livery sure look Pennsy to me despite the fancy stainless steel body and red paint! Joe Toth
That is because they are, I think the PRR pullmans were shadow painted, but to be realistic, the Texas Special had a through NYC, B&O , PRR and even a Wabash sleeper in non Texas Special colors. No railroad is an island and shared, loaned and leasing make for interesting model railroading. mktjames
Any model railroader who models a city, town, or a joint agency depot, sooner or later will probably end up with some foreign power, steam or diesel, and it isn´t always easy to stick to 100% Frisco reporting, be it model or prototype. I don´t think it vogue to threaten to tar and feather a fellow member who might stray off the beaten path but to be tolerant as long as the post is within reason. Did any Frisco Folks tear out the Katy section of the Morning Sun book that covers both the Frisco and Katy equipment? The sheer fact that the Frisco and Katy operated the Texas Special jointly is a perfect example of not being able to stick to this 100% Frisco do or die idea. True, we should do our utmost best to stick to Frisco First, but all of us will probably get caught in a situation at one time or another, where we will either refrain from posting a most interesting observation or keeping it to ourselves and not sharing it with the community at large because of a fear that it might not interest all members at large. If the Frisco had not interchanged with other railroads it would not have lasted long enough for us to all enjoy as the institution it became as the railroad it was that refuses to die in our hearts and spirit. Joe Toth The Trinity River Bottoms Boomer
OK, it may be time for an admin/moderator to jump in with 2 pence worth: This is a site dedicated to the history and modeling of the Frisco Railroad. Naturally, no railroad exists in a vacuum; some of the most interesting aspects of any railroad's operations are its interactions with other lines. IMO, it is perfectly legitimate to discuss how the Frisco interchanged and interacted with other railroads, be it freight or passenger. However, the key is "how the Frisco interchanged..." For this modeler, if I want information on a post-1981 railroader, I shall seek out the appropriate forum for that discussion. From the beginnings of the FMIG Newsletter in the late 1970s, the focus has been the history and modeling of the SL-SF and any of its subsidiaries and predecessor lines. This is what drew me and many others to this forum. We want to help prevent "scope creep," and I can understand the frustration that arises when multiple requests to stay on-topic go unheeded. Still, one mustn't go around trying to swat flies with a sledgehammer. Joe, while I've not been following the board too closely for a few weeks as school and soccer practice has been restarting, I'm afraid that I'm not aware of any public threats to which you've alluded? If there are concerns that me or any other moderator need to be aware of, please send me a private message. Best Regards,
The tar and feather was intended as a pun since I know of no threats to any members who may have side tracked some with their posts. I agree that anyone who purchases foreign power should not post it on the Frisco site unless it does apply to a direct Frisco theme. I have never tried to swat a fly with a sledgehammer, though have seen some horseflies in Texas large enough thus the use of one would have been the only way to send them to their happy hunting ground! On the serious side though, you are right and all of us should do our best to keep on track with Frisco themes including the subsidiaries. If the site starts to fill up with a lot of non-Frisco posts it will loose the very reason it was formed in the first place. So if anyone has any questions that do not pertain to the Frisco I think it fair to ask you to check the NMRA web site to see if you can find your answers there. The site is so full of information, prototype and modeling, with most offering links, if your question can´t be found on their site. Of course there is Google. I found a lot about the AT&N on it recently. I think all of us have ventured off the beaten path now and then and let us blame it on the heat this summer has produced! With low 90s in Bavaria and no a/c I will not pass on what some humans have said about it in German or English! I can speak German with a Texas accent and do not dare even attempt to talk to any of you on the phone using this unknown language! Joe Toth
Admittedly, I had to break out the big hardware when the 13-year cicadas came out of the ground this year. Thanks for clarifying, Joe; I appreciate the additional insight and feedback. In my efforts to be a better father, I tolerate my son's desire to model the AT&SF by visibly modeling the interchange at Olathe and the AT&SF freight house in the West Bottoms. If I ever get the desire to include either Cascade Green or neo-GN Orange and green in our workshop, I'll first submit to a comprehensive mental health evaluation. Best Regards,