Osage River Bridge at Osceola MO

Discussion in 'Bridges' started by trainsignguy, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Postcard views of the Osage River Bridge at Osceola MO
     

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  2. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Osage River Bridges "Today"

    Any one who was in Boy Scouts in KCMO, attended summer camp at Osceola. The camp was located near the hamlet of Iconium. One Pappy Grube, an old timer as old as the camp hills, recounted the early days, when hundreds of scouts arrived by train, and were taken the last leg via cattle truck. I too spent many summers there, and even worked a couple on camp staff. It was a 10 mile trip via the river to camp, so half day canoe trips were also part of the program. The starting point of these trips was from the "beach" just below the dam depicted by trainsignguys's images. During my "day" the Highline was still present, but the Leaky Roof was long gone. Only the cut-stone bridge piers remained. The Kaysinger Bluff project (now Truman Lake) destroyed all shown in the images below. During a trip to Missouri several years ago, I took this shot, which is looking south toward Osceola
     

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  3. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Osage River Bridges "Today"

    So the dam was in between the two lines with the highline to south. Is that correct?
     
  4. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

  5. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

  6. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    I bought the maps from the USGS when it was cleaning its stock of out-dated maps. I bought several during the late 60's. I do have the USGS, 7-1/2 minute sheet for Lowry City which is dated 1941. The 1941 alignment of Missouri Hwy 13 is very close to the current alignment of the hwy. In other words, at least during 1941, Missouri Hwy 13 did not go through Lowry City.

    The mother board on my PC died, so I do not have access to my scanner, and normal suite of graphics apps. I have also been traveling for my job, and have had limited access to web, and to my stack of stuff. I will take the map to work tomorrow, and see if I can get a copy for you.
     
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  7. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Karl,

    Thanks. No need to go to that trouble. The fact that you can verify it followed the current path and didn't actually go through town is good enough for me.
     
  8. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter


    These postcard pics all seem to be taken from the same vantage point. What direction is this looking? Would that be the SLSF or KCCS bridge in the background?
     
  9. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    SW (upstream on the Osage River) toward the SLSF (KCOS) bridge. The KCCS bridge was a couple hundred yards downstream with only the stone piers remaining in my lifetime (post 1961). There was also a single lane truss road bridge a couple of blocks upstream from the SLSF bridge. I posted a photo looking downstream that shows all three bridges http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=4191&d=1161711862

    Another resource for more information about the road bridge in Osceola is http://bridgehunter.com/mo/st-clair/osceola/

    Dale Rush
    Carthage, MO
     
  10. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Ok if that's the case the water is flowing north correct? I'm having trouble wrapping my head around that. I thought all waterways flowed in a southern direction.
     
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  11. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Streams are liable to flow in any direction, Cumberland and Tennesse Rivers, for example (They flow North into the Ohio).

    Tom
     
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  12. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    In this particular view the Osage is flowing north. The Osage is a very crooked river and like Tom's examples flows in every direction too before it reaches the Missouri River just downstream from Jefferson City. Take a look at a map of Lake of the Ozarks and you can really see how crooked the Osage River is.

    Dale Rush
     
  13. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks for the clarification. It makes sense now. Looks like I need to rework few things on my High Line route. I have the dam on the wrong side of the SLSF bridge. Good thing its a virtual route. :)
     
  14. trainsignguy

    trainsignguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Derrick,

    Looks to me like you have the dam in Osceola in the correct location. If the vscale view of the Osceola bridge and dam you recently posted is looking in a south southwest direction you have the dam located correctly. The road bridge would have been further south (left) about 2 blocks. The KCCS stone bridge piers would be about 200 yards north (right) in the view.

    Dale Rush
     
  15. dricketts

    dricketts Member Frisco.org Supporter

    That view was looking north. It was in the wrong location... but all seems good now.
     
  16. joeb2623

    joeb2623 Member

    Re: Osage River Bridges "Today"

    awesome photos -- so intrested in rail service to osceola
     
  17. Did the Osceola dam and the KCC&S bridge ever co-exist?

    The KCC&S track from Lowry City to Harlan Jct. was retired effective July 1, 1918, according to an index of property changes in the Missouri State University special collections. KCC&S trains were routed over the SLSF Clinton sub between these points thereafter, according to a November 1918 ETT issued during the period of USRA government control.

    When was the Osceola dam built?

    BAS
     
  18. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The best date that I have ever seen is the late 1920's by The Ozark Utility Company of Bolivar.
     
  19. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

    I found some additional info. The dam was built for the Western Missouri Power Company out of Pleasant Hill. There is an article in the Southeast Missourian, from an AP report, Sept 7, 1928, front page, regarding the proposal to build the dam with 2 800KW generators to supply power to Missouri Public Service and Ozark Utilities. - https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=zNMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=1658,1981399&hl=en

    Then, there is a Roots Web page for St Clair County, regarding a flooding easement as a result of the dam and it was signed in 1930. - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mostclai/circuitcourt/LandEasement.htm

    So I guess the dam was built between 1929 and 1930?
     

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