Mixed Flatcars

Discussion in 'Flatcars' started by chris, Nov 4, 2002.

  1. chris

    chris Guest

    Frisco Flatcars c. 1913.

    In browsing through some of the old postings, I found Jerry Howe's note on a picture at DeSoto, MO of the Iron Mountain car shops in 1913. There are a couple of Frisco cars of interest.

    There is a small (looks to be ~40') flatcar, #94699, to the right in one of the panoramic pictures. Then, there's one to the left (longer, maybe ~50'); a fish-bellied flatcar that appears to have "S T L & S F" reporting marks; I can't quite make the number out, but it looks like #93971.

    I'd be curious to see more prototype info on this class of cars - how long were they used in revenue service, pictures, build dates, etc.
     
  2. chris

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    95300-95799 Series Flats

    While it's not an answer to my question below, I did find more information on flatcars while cleaning out archived e-mail messages from the frisco/nshore mailing list.

    42' flat cars
    95300-95799 (500 total)
    Built by General American, 1928

    I don't have a name on the message, but it noted that Sunshine Models was releasing these cars at the NMRA Convention when it was in KCMO a few years ago.

    It notes that, also being made available, there were low-side gondolas converted from the 95300-series flat cars used during the 1940s and 1950s; it adds that these were used in stone/general commodity service before being converted back to flats by 1956.

    I did find that the gallery at Steam Era Freight Cars website has a picture of #95701 in Chicago, IL in 1953.

    If anyone has other pictures of the prototype, or especially models of these, feel free to post to the appropriate area of the Resource Center.
     
  3. patrick

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    SLSF 5370 Bulkhead Flatcar

    Bulkhead flatcar 5300-5449 series #5370 Frisco photo from the Western Historical Manuscript Collection.
     

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  4. patrick

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    SLSF 2014 Flatcar

    50 ton 53'-6" flat car #2015 Frisco photo from the Western Historical Manuscript Collection.
     

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  5. patrick

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    SLSF 5234 Bulkhead Flat

    Bulkhead flatcar or "wood rack" 5200-5299 series #5234 Frisco photo from the Western Historical Manuscript Collection.
     

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  6. patrick

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    SLSF 95899 Flatcar

    50 ton 42'-6" flat car 95800-95899 series #95899 Frisco photo from the Western Historical Manuscript Collection.
     

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  7. patrick

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    SLSF 3900 Well Car Flat

    125 ton "well car"?? SL-SF #3900 Frisco file photo from the Western Historical Manuscript Collection.
     

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  8. steve

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    did the SLSF have any of the 53'6" GSI flatcars with the 8'6" bulkheads and if so what scheme would they have been in for early 60's. Also what scmem was the 2000 series flats in. Want to do one in 1/8th scale. your help would be appreciated
     
  9. nicholas

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    Steve

    The Frisco many of these GSC/GSI cast 53-6 flatcars, and some were built with bulkheads and very late in the history of the railraod some were converted to be used in pulpwood service or correctly known as woodracks on the Frisco.

    The 8-6 bulkheads were on the 5200-5249 series(1953-54), 5600-5649 (1963), 5650-5699 (1964), 5700-5749 (1965), 5750-5799 (1966). The schemes for these cars is not so clear cut, although when you look at the builder photos already posted it seems that all the cars would have probably been painted yellow. The transition between freight car red to yellow seems to have occured in 1952. you will find likewise the FM versions in the 2000 series would have been in the yellow scheme as well.

    Regards Nick Molo
     
  10. chris

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    Frisco Folks:
    There was a recent post on the Steam Era Freight Cars list of Erie train no. LP78 in February, 1931 from Marion, OH to Kent, OH. It lists the following Frisco rolling stock (I'm copying/pasting directly from the original post):

    148847 StLSF Flr 42 Tons Bgton

    612 SLSF Lard 51 Tons JCity

    123245 SL-SF Lbr 51 Tons Park Place Pa

    The posting indvidual noted that "SLSF #612 is not listed in the ORER so either the conductor or the transcriber of the wheel report made an error. " I even double-checked the later 1943 ORER, thinking that maybe there were some express/refrigerator cars that were close to this but no such luck. Any thoughts?
     
  11. chris

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    SLSF 3901 Four Truck Flatcar

    Flat car #3901, 11-11-1969 Springfield MO. Frisco photo; from the Frisco Museum's "All Aboard" magazine - posted with permission.
     

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