KC Area Meat Packers Question

Discussion in 'General' started by Coonskin, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    I distinctly recall the smell of the meat packers when we crossed the Intercity Viaduct back in the 1950s into the 1960s. :p

    However, I'm not very conversant on just WHAT meat packers were in KC. I think Armour was there, but who else?

    Also: Can anyone think of a reason why one could see meat cars such as Swift, Armour, Wilson, etc, being unloaded at a cold storage facility in the West Bottoms area? Mainly looking for plausibility here. I wouldn't have a hope of modeling any of the actual packers/stockyards... but would like a place to send meat reefers (and other refrigerator cars) so such cars could come onto the layout for spot on my little fictionalized slice of the West Bottoms. Perhaps a freelanced "Kansas City Cold Storage" facility?
     
  2. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    The "ASB" Bridge stands for "Armour-Swift-Burlington," so Swift would be another packer for sure.

    TAG 1014
     
  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    The packing companies that I know of for sure were Armour & Co (their packing plant was parallel to the viaduct south side), Swift, Fowler Packing Company, and Central Packing Company.
     
  4. Oldguy

    Oldguy Member Frisco.org Supporter

  5. tmfrisco

    tmfrisco Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Cool read. I enjoyed the article, thanks for posting the link. My wife and I visited the stockyard area in Ft. Worth a few years ago, and I enjoyed the historical facts and structures still in existence. The amazing amount of rail traffic into these stockyard/meat packing areas would have been very fun to watch. However, I can certainly understand why city dwellers would not miss the industry due to the smell.

    Terry
     
  6. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Thanks for the link to the KC Meat Packers essay, Bob!

    Tag: I was born n' raised in the KC area. Was 16 years old when we left. I don't think I ever heard the actual name of the ASB bridge!

    Keith: Thanks.

    As for my proposed refrigerated business: I'm going to wing it and have a refrigerated warehouse or something AND... in addition to general service reefer cars, some of my favorite meat packer cars will show up there: Swift, Armour, Wilson, etc. Perhaps it's a refrigerated wholesaler that wholesales to the entire KC region. Anyway, that's my story an' I'm stickin' to it!!!
     
  7. UnclePete

    UnclePete Member

    The ASB bridge is "Armour Swift Burlington" bridge.



     
  8. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Yup... TAG 1014 said so in the very first reply to this thread. :eek:

    That's what I was in reference to in my reply.
     
  9. rcmck

    rcmck Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Andre,

    You might take a look at this site: http://www.kchistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Zeldin&CISOPTR=118&CISOBOX=1&REC=17

    I'm pretty certain this picture was taken in the West Bottoms. I can't tell you the exact location, but the buildings all seem like landmarks to me. Folks like Keith Robinson and Mark Davidson, who are virtually scholars in their knowledge about the West Bottoms, could confirm or disprove this.

    Hope this is of help to you -

    Bob McKeighan
    Lenexa, KS
     
  10. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Hi Bob!

    Thanks for that neat pic!

    Like you, I suspect it was taken in the West Bottoms: "Kansas City Cold Storage and Warehouse"... works for me!

    (Note the painted hand pointing toward the KC Cold Storage and Warehouse facility? Meaning that smaller building on which the sign is found was NOT KC Cold Storage and Warehouse. Interesting!)
     
  11. rcmck

    rcmck Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Andre,

    Here is another portion of that same site with some Sanborn Maps (early) of Kanas City West Bottoms: http://www.kchistory.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Sanborn&CISOPTR=34&CISOBOX=1&REC=4

    As you scroll down and look at the list of industries, there is a "Peopole's Ice and Cold Storage Co.". Could it be that the beef that was processed locally by Armour, Swift, etc., was delivered to cold storage facilities, prior to final packaging in local grocery stores?

    Speculation on my part - my curiousity is growing.

    Bob
     
  12. Boomer John

    Boomer John Member

    I did some research on KC meat packers about four years ago when researching my West Bottoms layout. I'm am about 80% certain that the Frisco switched only the Armour plant in the west bottoms. The track ran north up Santa Fe street, turned left into a small yard called Henning Street. They then pulled cars out of the Armour complex. I have not been able to find out where the icing facilities were, but they are at Henning Street in my 1/87 version.

    Finding Armour cars are a bit of a problem. Intermountain had some nice ones, I have three. I have a couple of MDC 36 footers, have some undec Intermountain I need to paint and three of the upcoming Rapido GRAX(?) ones on the way. I read somewhere that you would not find competing meat packer cars at another packer. So those easy to find good looking red Swift cars are out. Walthers has some low detail ones in the later large Armour markings, but I wanted the earlier small herald ones.

    John
     
  13. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    John,

    Intermountain is running it's fourth set 6 Armour reefers with the small herald, assembled car 45510. The suffex for these cars are 19-24. The cars are currently scheduled for delivery in February 2014. The quicker folks order the more certain delivery dates will be assured. Their undecorated kit is also available if you want to assemble and paint your own.

    Most large scale packing plants did their own initial icing of reefers. This helped keep costs down. Typically railroad icing facilities were for necessary in transit icing only as icing added to transportation costs. In Kansas City at least the MP, ATSF, RI and UP had icing stations in the Kansas City Area. Today, only the RI ice house remains.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
  14. Where is the RI ice house?
     
  15. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Larry,

    The ice house is on the south side of the yard, near the west end. It is the near three story concrete structure north of the Proctor & Gamble facility. As you travel south on 18th Street over the yard, look to the west.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  16. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    John, do you have any photos of your layout version? How's the layout progressing? I don't think I've seen an update in a while.

    Best Regards,
     

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