Kansas Bridges

Discussion in 'Bridges' started by rich57, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. rich57

    rich57 Member

    Does anyone have a complete list of bridges (showing dimensions, types and location) on any of the Kansas Subdivisions. I am doing a project on the subject for an individual writing a book on this subject. Thank you for any help that is given.
     
  2. Friscotony

    Friscotony Member

    What type of bridges are you searching? Only river crossings, road over and under passes, etc. I live in Wichita and if you want, give me a call and we can go from there. I do have several photos of local bridges.

    Tony LaLumia

    316-682-3947
     
  3. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Tell us more about this book.
     
  4. rich57

    rich57 Member

    It is just in the very early stages. I have not decided yet if it will include all railroads in Kansas or just the Frisco in Kansas. I will credit all those who help and provide pictures, maps, track charts and other information. I am a volunteer at the Colorado Railroad Museum and we have very little on the Frisco. I will keep folks updated. Thank you again for your help!
     
  5. TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020)

    TAG1014 (Tom Galbraith RIP 7/15/2020) Passed Away July 15, 2020 Frisco.org Supporter

    You've got to visit or do some research on the terrific deco underpass that goes over Kansas highway K-400. Art deco concrete scupltured with "Frisco Lines" graved into the surface. I may be wrong about the highway number, I've only seen pictures of the underpass. I think there are photos of the bridge posted on this chat board. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's Near Beaumont??

    Tom G.
     
  6. Friscotony

    Friscotony Member

    You are correct about the highway number. The state built a new road and bridge over the Frisco several years ago and of course did not remove or fill the bridge as it was in use at the time. It has since had the tracks removed, but is in excellent shape and in fact, you can get off of highway 400 and park on the old highway under the old bridge. There is also another highway bridge on highway 400 between Wichita and Augusta that was originally a two lane road and later was expanded to 4 lanes and the bridge was made longer to cross.

    Tony L.
     
  7. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Attached are pictures taken of the Frisco K-96 Overpass while on a tour of the Wichita Sub with Bob Hoover (friscofriend). It is about 2 1/2 miles west of Beaumont, KS, just west of SE Gray Rd, on the north side of US400. When US400 was built, an overpass was built for US400 that nearly overpasses the Frisco Overpass.

    It is a very nice Art Deco structure in very good shape other than pesky graffiti.

    It can be seen on Google Maps in Earth view here: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.6654756,-96.6082634,815m/data=!3m1!1e3
    Bruce Adams (ba) had posted pictures of this bridge taken in the 90's: http://www.frisco.org/vb/album.php?albumid=61&attachmentid=13290
    Based on Bruce's photos, someone needs to spray a little brush killer and make it more visible.

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  8. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Attached are pictures taken November 31, 2014 of the Frisco bridge over the Fall River just west of New Albany, KS taken November 31, 2014 while on a tour of the Wichita Sub with Bob Hoover (friscofriend). This bridge would be at about MP422. The pictures were taken from the west for better lighting.

    It is on 1450 Road, west of Barber Road, south of US400.

    It can be found on Google Maps, Earth view at: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5820011,-95.9557406,1290m/data=!3m1!1e3

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  9. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Attached is a picture taken November 31, 2014 of the Frisco bridge over an unnamed creek just west of New Albany, KS taken November 31, 2014 while on a tour of the Wichita Sub with Bob Hoover (friscofriend). This bridge would be at about MP421. I like the stepped, cut stone abutments.

    It can be seen from Barber Road just past the intersection of Barber Road and 1450 Road: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.5732047,-95.9447786,1633m/data=!3m1!1e3

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  10. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Always nice to record any Frisco remnants! These would be very valuable to a scratchbuilder. Thanks for posting.
     
  11. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    F421.0 Spindlers Creek; 44 foot dbl deck plate girder
     
  12. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter


    F421.8 West approach ballast deck pile trestle, 14 panels, 181 feet, driven 1924, through pin connect truss, 164 feet.
     
  13. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Karl for filling in the full technical MP and data on the bridges.
     
  14. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    To All:

    When Keith and I were following the Wichita Sub east from here in Wichita to Neodesha I made the comment to him that I thought that I remembered reading somewhere the reasoning as to why the bridges that we were seeing all were of the plate girder variety with stone abutments vs. pile trestle ones. Going back to where I thought I had read the reasoning sure enough I found the following.

    In Dr. H. Craig Miner's book The St. Louis-San Francisco Transcontinental Railroad, The Thirty-fifth Parallel Project, 1853-1890 the following quote is on page 112:
    "Rogers was authorized to offer opinions and intervened once with the directors in New York to change the original plan of iron rail and wooden bridges to steel rail and iron bridges-this to avoid 'a Road which just allows of trains running over it, and one which would be very expensive to operate and building for years to come.' "

    As Keith can attest, the 44' double deck plate girder bridge over Spindlers Creek shown in post #9 in this thread at milepost F421.0 had beautiful stone abutments that had angled stairstep design at each end. There is a similar bridge visible from U.S. Highway 400 just west of Piedmont.
     

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