Historical Assistance -- Afton Sub, Parsons Sub around 1920

Discussion in 'General' started by rjthomas909, Jun 12, 2020.

  1. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Good Morning Frisco Friends,

    I am working on a presentation for the NMRA-X at the end of June and am hoping to firm up a few historical details with respect to the 1920s time frame on the Frisco. The Crawford and Cherokee layout has been a blast to build, but my following of the prototype is somewhat marginal. The presentation will be an overview of the region history, how I picked areas to model, construction, photo tour, etc.

    If you have a few minutes and are knowledgeable on the subject, I am hoping to add a few notes in these areas:

    Let's say 1920 +/- 5 years as the time period.

    -- What would have been typical locomotive types on the Afton Sub between KC and Afton, OK for freight?

    -- What would have been typical locomotive types on the Parsons Sub between Pittsburg, KS and Parsons KS?

    -- Would there have been named passenger trains on the Afton Sub in that period? If so, what would be typical and could be modeled today in HO?

    This should also help my own layout in terms of realism and accuracy. I will of course give credit and thanks to those that have helped in the past and for the questions here!

    As always, thanks All!

    -Bob T.

    P.S. If you have a relevant photo that you think I should share, I will be happy to include and give you a shout out!
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  2. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    Here is what I could come up with:
    Check out the time table Karl shared in this thread from 1923, that should give you train names: http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/afton-sub-parsons-sub-1920-ett-info.12770/
    As far as motive power, there is a nice photo you shared in another thread: http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/afton-sub-parsons-sub-1920-ett-info.12770/
    It's not dated, but it would appear to be in the time frame you're looking for. From it, we can assume locals on both lines were powered by 4-6-0's and 2-8-0's. While there isn't one pictured, it would be reasonable to think that some of the 0-6-0's could be seen running some of the smaller switch jobs.
    As for mainline power, that is a little more vague. There has been discussion on here recently about the 2-8-8-2's being sent to the area to pull coal drags. If I remember right, they could have still been in the area at the time. Other than that, the bigger 2-8-0's would be a likely source of power. I can't remember when the first of the 2-8-2's started showing up, but I want to say mid 20's (feel free to correct me on that one.) Main line passenger trains probably would have been pulled by 4-6-2's. The 1500 series 4-8-2's didn't come along until 1926.

    That's all the knowledge I have setting in the back of my mind on the subject. Maybe someone else can chime in.
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  3. rjthomas909

    rjthomas909 Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks Ethan! Hey, I had not remembered that timetable having train names.

    -Bob T.

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