Diesel Locomotives small lettering

To All:
I am in the process of doing research on GP-15's and need some help. To that
end, I have some questions about the small lettering around the locomotive.
Doesanyone have any photos that
would show this? Better yet, do you know where I might be able to obtain a
builders diagram or something of the sort? One specific question is what
does the lettering say at the bottom of the front of the nose? Any help from
an expert here would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Bob Hoover

 

Texas Special

John G. Hollembeak took this photo of his model of the Texas Special

 

Nick Molo's models on Rick McClellan's layout

Nick Molo's models on Rick McClellan's layout sent in by Doug Hughes

 

Ken McElreath's BIRMINGHAM TERMINAL

These are from Ken McElreath's BIRMINGHAM TERMINAL HO layout in Cedar Rapids, IA. (From page 7 FMIG Lines #106

 

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Revell
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ConCor(MP-15)
ALCO
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Lindsay
Hobbytown
ALCO
Train Miniature
Model Power
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Bachmann
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ALCO
Atlas</td> <td>Enhorning
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Unknown drawing of SD

Unknown drawing of SD

 

Does anyone like the lettering?

 

Looks good. I always thought that the AMTRACK B-B trucked units would look good in the Frisco passenger paint.

 

Hey, how about SLSF in speed lettering or SLSF in Billboard size?

 

Stan Lytle's F45

Stan Lytle's F45

 

This is one of Santa Fe's F45's that Frisco snatched off a train in Springfield and painted in their colors for the business train. I guess that's what can happen when railroads pool their power!

 

I am requesting tips or information on material to use as 'Fluting' on the lower sides of a model HO E7A Texas Special passenger engine. I had information that Union Station Products in Memphis, TN made such material but I am unable to locate this company at this time.

Ken Elmore

 

Micahael Eby's GP60M drawing

Well, OK, (grin), I have one y'all may like:

 

Does anyone know what is the prototypical number of exhaust stacks to be used on the Stewart Models SLSF 214 VO-1000 ?

Thanks for the help !

 

Remember sitting in the parking lot of the Fyler Ave. yards in St. Louis Mo waiting for dad to get off work. The passenger engines all carried the names of famous race horses, such as "Man of War","Seabiscut",and War Admiral. Thought this was quite interesting representing the comparison between powerful and fast engines and the horses. Really enjoy the Frisco site. Keep up the great work
John M Carter (Johnny)

 

Walthers EMC 60' doodlebug

Here is a shot of the Walthers EMC 60' doodlebug. It looks mighty close to the 2121. The arched windows might take a bit of work, but much closer to Frisco than the Spectrum. Any thoughts?

 

Regarding Jim Arnett's question in the "Prototype" section on modeling an N-Scale GP-38-2:

There is a good discussion (posted by Charlie Dischinger, I think) on Mandarin red under "Models: Modeling Tips: Frisco Paint Formulae."

<U>Model Railroader</U>, in their December 1989 issue, printed a superb article by Richard Napper on modeling GP38ACs and GP38-2s in HO-Scale from Athearn kits. He suggests using Floquil SP Daylight Red in his article.

Incidentially, Tim Cannon (an FMIGer in Chaffee MO - are you out there Tim?) suggested Floquil's "Saucony Red" (sp?) as his color of choice for obtaining a more faded, orangish Mandarin Red. That was approximately 10-12 years ago, I have never tried it and I'm not sure if Floquil even makes this color anymore.

Richard Napper's MR article also shows a J.David Ingles photo of GP-38AC #651 at Lindenwood 12/21/1973 with the coonskin logo on the nose. He also references GP38-2 #460 on the last corporate calendar (of which I have a framed copy at home)with the coonskin logo. These are the only ones I've ever seen in this group with the coonskin.

Jim, good luck, happy modeling and be sure to post a photo of the finished product when completed.
--Chris

 

Does anyone make a Pyle light in H.O to use on
Frisco locos? Were there any GP38-2's that didn't
have that feature?

 

I can't find my Walthers catolog right now but there is a gyralite for EMD and GE Frisco locomotives in the super detailing section. I can't remember who makes them off hand.
Here is a list of the ones that had gyralights:

100-124 GP15-1
400-478 GP38-2
633-662 GP38AC
663-699 GP38-2
750-774 GP40-2
790-799 GP50
844-862 U30B
863-870 B30-7
943-948 SD45
950-957 SD40-2

Roger

 

Utah Pacific Model RR Parts makes Item #<U>755-85</U> - Pyle Gyralite; Single-Nose Mount that includes the housing for the light itself.

Go to Walthers Onlinefor a diagram of this item.