Birmingham Subdivision - Locomotives

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  1. train61

    train61 Member

    I want to thank Manny on his help on the 4-4-0 search. Also Tom, Chris and Dan on my other searches. Now I need all of ya to help me.
    I've looked though my books, I don't have Louis Marre's "Frisco Diesel Power", and all on-line to find the loco's that served in Bham during 1940-1959. I know I have holes in my list and some that my not have been in Bham. So I'm asking y'all to help me fill in the holes and correct my list on what I have so it will be right. You will see *'s next to some, just my little thing for my proto types. So here's my list so far:
    X-X-X-X NUMBER CLASS-TYPE-NAME YEAR SOURCE

    4-6-2 1048*PACIFIC
    4-6-2 1050 PACIFIC CONDRENRAILS.COM
    4-6-4 1061 HUDSON 1946 FRISCO POWER J.G. COLLIAS, PG 151/BHAM
    RAILS,PG 88
    4-6-4 1063 HUDSON 1948 CONDRENRAILS.COM
    4-6-4 1064 HUDSON BHAM RAILS, PG 87
    4-6-4 1066* HUDSON 1948 CONDRENRAILS.COM / BHAM RAILS, PG 88
    2-8-0 1207 CONSOLIDATION 1938 YESTERYEARDEPOT.COM
    2-8-0 1210* CONSOLIDATION 1948 LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 18 #3 PG 15
    2-8-0 1223* CONSOLIDATION 1946 LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 18 #3 PG 17
    2-8-0 1234*CONSOLIDATION 1948/1946 LOCO QU VOL 18 #3 PG 17
    2-8-0 1244*CONSOLIDATION 1948
    2-8-0 1247*CONSOLIDATION
    2-8-0 1248 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1255*CONSOLIDATION 1948 FRISCO POWER J.G. COLLIAS, PG 24 ; LQ V2 #1 PG 47
    2-8-0 1258 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1259*CONSOLIDATION
    2-8-0 1273 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1275 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1276 CONSOLIDATION 1952 Frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1282*CONSOLIDATION EBAY/ frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1289 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1290 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1291*CONSOLIDATION frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1292 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1296 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1298 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1299 CONSOLIDATION 1952 frisco.org/All Aboard
    2-8-0 1311 CONSOLIDATION
    2-8-0 1332* CONSOLIDATION INTERNET SOURCE
    2-8-2 1351 MIKADO-REBUILT
    4-8-2 1513 MOUNTAIN
    4-8-2 1516* MOUNTAIN
    4-8-2 1517 MOUNTAIN 1941 YESTERYEARDEPOT.COM/FRISCO POWER, PG 170
    4-8-2 1520 MOUNTAIN 1926 FRISCO.ORG
    4-8-2 1522* MOUNTAIN 1946 FRISCO.ORG/FRISCO POWER, PG 161
    4-8-2 *1523 MOUNTAIN CONDRENRAILS.COM
    4-8-2 1526* MOUNTAIN
    4-8-2 1527 MOUNTAIN 1946/1950 EBAY/BHAM RAIL, PG 89/LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 18 #4 1995, PG 9
    4-8-2 1528* MOUNTAIN 1946 BHAM RAILS PG 89, LQ V2 #1 PG 47
    4-8-2 1529 MOUNTAIN
    0-6-0*3545*SWITCHER 1940 LOCO OF FRISCO, PG 18/FRISCO POWER-PG 218/LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 18 #3 1995, PG 31
    0-6-0 *3548*SWITCHER 1938 FRISCO.ORG
    0-6-0 3672 SWITCHER 1950 Frisco.org
    0-6-0 *3673 SWITCHER 1952Steam Finale
    0-6-0 3677*SWITCHER 1939 LOCO OF FRISCO, PG 48
    0-6-0 3702 SWITCHER 1938 EBAY
    0-6-0 3722 SWITCHER 1946 frisco.org
    0-6-0 3731 SWITCHER 1948 frisco.org
    0-6-0 3734 SWITCHER 1949 Frisco.org
    0-6-0 *3741*SWITCHER 1948/1952 LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 18 #3 PG 30
    0-6-0 *3743*SWITCHER 1940/1952 FRISCO.ORG
    0-6-0 3752*SWITCHER 1948 LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 2 #1 PG 48
    0-6-0 *3802*usra switcher 1952 frisco.org
    2-8-2 4018*MIKADO 1952/2009 Frisco All Aboard/BHAM SLOSS
    2-8-2 4023 MIKADO YESTERYEARDEPOT.COM
    2-8-2 4100 MIKADO 1935 FRISCO.ORG
    2-8-2 4102 MIKADO 1947 LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 2 #1 PG 46
    2-8-2 4128 MIKADO INTERNET SOURCE
    2-8-2 4130 MIKADO LOCO QUARTERLY
    2-8-2 4132 MIKADO 1940 LQ VOL 5 #4 SUMMER 1982
    2-8-2 4134 MIKADO INTERNET SOURCE
    2-8-2 4144* MIKADO
    2-8-2 4200 MIKADO 1948 FRISCO.ORG
    2-8-2 4201 MIKADO
    2-8-2 4203 MIKADO FRISCO FINAL PG 43
    2-8-2 4204 MIKADO
    2-8-2 4206 MIKADO 1950 BHAM RAILS PG 107
    2-8-2 4207 MIKADO
    2-8-2 4209 MIKADO STEAM FINAL, PG 9 & 28
    2-8-2 4210 MIKADO
    2-8-2 4212 MIKADO
    2-8-2 4213 MIKADO 1948/1951 FRISCO POWER J.G. COLLIAS, PG 60/STEAM FINAL, PG 28
    2-8-2 4215 MIKADO FRISCO FINAL PG 43
    2-8-2 4216 MIKADO 1950 LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 18 #4 1995, PG 1
    2-8-2 4217*MIKADO 1948 FRISCO.ORG/LOCO QUARTERLY VOL 18 #4 1995, PG 16/LOCO OF FRISCO, PG 47
    2-8-2 4219 MIKADO 1947 LOCO OF FRISCO PG 61
    4-8-2 4300 MOUNTAIN 1946 LOCO OF FRISCO, PG 51
    4-8-2 4301 MOUNTAIN 1948 STEAM FINAL PG 9
    4-8-2 4302 MOUNTAIN 1948 STEAM FINAL PG 9
    4-8-2 4303 MOUNTAIN 1948 STEAM FINAL PG 9


    SW-9 305-314*DIESEL SWITCHERS 1952I INTERNET SOURCE/Frisco Steam Finale,stagner
    GP-7 500-526 DIESEL ROAD 1952 INTERNET SOURCE/Frisco Steam Finale,stagner"
    GP-7 534 INTERNET SOURCE"
    GP-7 541*INTERNET SOURCE"
    GP-7 579 INTERNET SOURCE"
    GP-7 587*INTERNET SOURCE
    GP-7 591 EMD BHAM RAILS PG 109"
    GP-7 615EMD INTERNET SOURCE
    GP-7 620* EMD INTERNET SOURCE
    GP-7 621 EMD BHAM RAILS PG 109
    GP-7 628 EMD INTERNET SOURCE
    GP-7 630*EMD INTERNET SOURCE
    E8 2009 JET PILOT INTERNET SOURCE
    E8 2010 COUNT FLEET INTERNET SOURCE
    E82012*FLYING EBONY INTERNET SOURCE
    E8 2019 CAVALCADE INTERNET SOURCE
    F-3A 5000 EMD
    F-3A 5001 EMD
    F-3A 5004 EMD
    F-3A 5005 EMD
    F-3A 5007 EMD 1954 BHAM RAILS PG 108
    F-3A 5011 EMD
    F-3A 5013 EMD 1954 BHAM RAILS PG 101
    F-3A 5015 EMD
    F-3A 5017 EMD
    F-7A 5019 EMD
    F-7A 5021 EMD 1950 BHAM RAILS PG 107
    F7-A 5022 EMD 1950 BHAM RAILS PG 110
    F-7A 5026 EMD
    F-7A 5028 EMD
    F-7A 5028 EMD
    F-7A 5031 EMD
    F-7A 5034 EMD
    F-7A 5035 EMD
    F-7A 5036 EMD
    F-7A 5039 EMD
    FP-7A 5041 EMD
    FP-7A 5047 EMD 1955
    FP-7A 5051 EMD 1950 BHAM RAILS PG 101
    FA-1 5200 ALCO
    FA-1 5206 ALCO
    FA-1 5210 ALCO 1950 BHAM RAILS PG 108
    FA-1 5211 ALCO
    FA-1 5216 ALCO
    FA-1 5220 ALCO 1950 BHAM RAILS PG 109
    FA-1 5221 ALCO
    FA-1 5222 ALCO
    FA-1 5223 ALCO
    FA-1 5225 ALCO
    FA-1 5226 ALCO
    FA-1 5227 ALCO
    FA-1 5228 ALCO
    FB-1 5305 ALCO 1950 BHAM RAILS PG 108
    OK, I hope all of ya can help.
    Jason Ross
    Bham AL
    Bham Sub-Div
     
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  2. Sirfoldalot

    Sirfoldalot Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    I have a very nice shot of #4132 sitting beside B'ham's East Thomas Roundhouse, July 19, 1940.

    Locomotive Quarterly, Summer 1982, vol V, #4.

    Same article "The Frisco's Well-Maintained Mikados" has shots of 4206 and 4200.
     
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  3. train61

    train61 Member

    THANK YOU SHERREL. GOT IT ON HARD DRIVE NOW AND ON THE LIST. LOOKS LIKE I NEED THAT LQ NOW TOO.
    JASON ROSS
    BHAM AL
     
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  4. train61

    train61 Member

    Hey gang,
    I still need your help.
    The steam side I still need help with, but the diesel is what I really need help with.
    Please look at your pics, books and the like, see what I may have missed or gotten all wrong.
    I know I'm asking alot, but I'm almost there.
    Anyway, I've got Amory and Pensacola to do.
    Then I'll really need everyones help on those.
    On a side note: Wells Fargo lets you customize your debt cards on-line for free. I now have Frisco Loco's on two of my cards. Check it out.
    Jason Ross
    Bham AL
    Bham Sub-Div
     
  5. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    Passenger trains 207/208 were handled with SG-equipped GP-7's and FP-7's. The last run of 208 was handled by 5047 on Jan 31, 1955. The Frisco's Chair-Sleeper (Not Pullman) rebuilt in 1949 to a Buffet-Sleeper (Not Pullman) lasted until 1952.

    During the 1920's through at least the early 1930, the Bolshevik's could be found in freight service between Amory and Pensacola.

    Records indicate that the 1614, 1618, 1619, 1625, 1627 (on a passenger extra), 1630, and 1632 were in use at that time.

    Engines 1619 and 1622 were in use on work extras at Adamsville
     
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  6. train61

    train61 Member

    Thanks for the info Karl
    Wow! 1600's in adamsville? when?

    Now, I just need 1940's-1959, Karl.
    Did the 1600's still move between Amory and Pensacloa during that time? I have some info on Amory and Pensacola.
    So right now I'm looking for Info on Bham Sub-Div area, as my list shows. Some of these came thought Memphis. So I included the info I saw on Memphis to my list, excluding the Switchers. So there maybe some that didn't go to Bham but to Pensacola.
    Please let me know what you can Karl.
    Jason Ross
    Bahm AL
     
  7. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

    The 1619 and 1622 were handling work xtras around Adamsville during Aug 1919.

    Stagner has 2 Bolsheviks assigned to the Southern Division as late as Jan 1946, but by Dec 1948, the 2 Bolsheviks had been reassigned to other divisions.
     
  8. frisco1522

    frisco1522 Staff Member Staff Member

    If you want to revisit the '30s, you would also find the 2001-2007 2-8-8-2s hanging around B'ham. But then you would also involve a gaggle of smaller ten wheelers and the like.
     
  9. train61

    train61 Member

    Just doing the 1940's and 1950's. Thought about putting the 2-8-8-2's on the planned layout. Just didnt have room or money.
    THANKS DON
    By the way, I'll be putting two 2-10-2's on, because I'm train61 :). That's the closest I can get to having a Frisco after my user name. Ok, Frisco didnt have a 61 :eek:, but as they say, It's my Railroad (layout) :p. 61 is the one that got away from being a 4300 OR 4400 ;).
    Also looks like two 1600's will be on my Southern Div, (expanded layout plan) :cool:. THANK YOU KARL FOR THAT ONE.
    Let's keep this ball a roll'n.
    Jason Ross
    Bham AL
    Bham Sub-Div
     
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  10. train61

    train61 Member

    UPDATE ON LIST
    2-8-2 4203 MIKADO FRISCO STEAM FINAL PGS 19 & 43
    2-8-2 4215 MIKADO FRISCO STEAM FINAL PGS 19 & 43
    4-8-2 4301 MOUNTAIN 1948 STEAM FINAL PG 9
    4-8-2 4302 MOUNTAIN 1948 STEAM FINAL PG9
    4-8-2 4303 MOUNTAIN 1948 STEAM FINAL PG9
     
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  11. train61

    train61 Member

    UPDATE NO.2-
    FROM FMIG NEWSLETTERS
    (* DENOTES UPDATED YEAR)
    2
    -8-0 1204 1948 NL #12 PG 11 F. ARDREY PHOTO LIST
    2-8-0 1209 1949 DITTO
    2-8-0 1224 1947 DITTO
    2-8-0 1232 1948 DITTO
    2-8-0 1300 1947 DITTO
    0-6-0 3749 1947 NL # 12 PG 12 F. ARDREY PHOTO LIST
    2-8-2 4032 1943 DITTO
    2-8-2 4100 1943 DITTO*
    2-8-2 4139 1946 DITTO
    2-8-2 4145 1949 DITTO
    2-8-2 4202 1947 DITTO
    2-8-2 4204 1947 DITTO*
    2-8-2 4209 1948 DITTO*
    2-8-2 4210 1947 DITTO*
    2-8-2 4212 1947 DITTO*
    JASON ROSS
    BHAM AL
    BHAM SUB-DIV
     
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  12. train61

    train61 Member

    Correction #1 Diesel listing
    GP-7 500-526 should read
    GP-7 606-632
    sorry about that.
    That's why I need everyones help on this.
    Jason Ross
    Bham AL
     

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