Nose Herald on U30B?

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  1. pensive

    pensive Member Supporter

    The January, 1969 edition of All Aboard had a page in it that showed new equipment acquired in the past year. As you can see, GE U30B 835 has a coonskin herald applied to its nose. Is this a doctored photograph? If it is, they did a good job on it!


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  2. meteor910

    meteor910 2009 Engineer of the Year Staff Member Supporter

    Rich -

    Ah, the pic you posted struck a chord in my feeble memory bank. This same pic is in the 1968 Frisco Annual Report, inside back cover.

    SLSF 835 looks brand new in the pic. I'm wondering if the coonskin herald was added to the nose for a pr shot, or if it ever entered service with it.

    U30b SLSF 835 is a unit I have modeled, in fact it's one of my favorites. As a result, I have a bunch of pics of the real unit. None of the pics show 835 in service with the nose herald, but that doesn't say it never wore it in its early life.

    I kind of like the look. I wish they would have used the herald on all the o/w road units.

  3. pensive

    pensive Member Supporter

    Ken, I'd like to think that they painted the coonskin on the nose for the PR shot and then let it run around like that for a few years until its first repainting. But who knows? It's certainly a good enough excuse to add it to a model of SLSF 835. After all, there is photographic evidence!

    I too would have liked to see coonskin heralds applied to all classes of O/W locomotives, but I'm sure the ghost of Clark Hungerford would ask "how much revenue are those nose heralds bringin' in?"

  4. friscobob

    friscobob Staff Member Staff Member Supporter

    Heralds, like paint, don't pull tonnage, and make zip on revenue, but IMO it woulda made a positive impression. One can get too austeure........;)
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  5. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporter

    Here's a better picture of #835 with the Nose Herald.
    SLSF #835 GE U30B Springfield Diesel Shop mid to late 60s Machinist John Price in photo.JPG
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  6. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    It definitely looks painted on to me. They must have blasted it off afterward and repainted the nose, other wise it would have shown through later, which sounds like an even bigger waste of money than just leaving it on it. Check out these pictures from the archive:

    A year and a half later it not only has a plain white nose, but they painted the entire nose white, giving the unit even more of an odd duck look.

    Here is 835 again in 1978. The extra white nose is a giveaway that the unit hasn't been repainted yet. At this point, there isn't any evidence of a nose herald breaking back through.

    Finally, sometime between August of 78 and the merger, 835 was repainted and the red strip across the bottom of the nose made a return.
  7. Coonskin

    Coonskin Member

    Installation of the Gyrolite would pretty much cost the herald. (It would have to have a notch cut into the nose, then welded into place/bondo/etc.) IF it was painted on at GE, then there wouldn't be a supply of stick-on's to replace it. Remember, the Frisco was all about "Waste not, want not".
  8. Iantha_Branch

    Iantha_Branch Member

    I thought the same thing, but I remembered at some point seeing pictures of a GP38 with a nose herald. I was able to find the old thread with the pictures. The short version is it still fits but the nose is very full. I think it would be even fuller on the U boats.

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