Houck and T J Moss Tie Co

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  1. Karl

    Karl 2008 Engineer of the Year Frisco.org Supporter

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  2. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Very nice! Now you're hitting close to the heart of my layout. Mr Moss was a friend of Louis Houck and across the tracks from the Zalma Depot was a Moss Lumber office. I saw it in an old photo and the original Moss building was moved and still stands in Zalma. It's in very poor condition. Mr Moss died very young and unexpectedly. I will model this Moss Lumber store soon for my layout. I will also use a Jordan Products steam shovel mounted on a swamp skiff for a Diversion Channel scene. The Diversion Channel ended at Greenbrier by the way. How handy for me :) Thanks for the write up!
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  3. pensive

    pensive Member Frisco.org Supporter

    T. J. Moss Tie Co.

    The mention of the T. J. Moss Tie Company reminded me of a book that has come down through my family, Handbook of the Trees of the Northern States and Canada by Romeyn Beck Hough. An inspection of its cover shows the logo of the Moss Tie Co. in the center and my grandfather's name, F. J. Lawler, in the lower right-hand corner. My grandfather worked for the Frisco from 1894 to 1946, and retired as a traffic manager, though I'm not sure what kind of job that was. His connection with the Moss Tie Co. is unknown.

    The book is unusual in that in addition to the main portion devoted to identifying trees there is an unnumbered appendix which explained the process of how ties were manufactured from choosing the trees to delivery to the railroads. I've included a sample of these pages. The book has a copyright date of 1907 but the section on ties mentions statistics from 1922 so I assume that this (third) edition was published soon after that. The Moss Tie Co. seemed like a big operation by then as it mentioned tie treatment plants in Granville, Wisconsin, Mount Vernon and East St. Louis, Illinois with headquarters in St. Louis.


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  4. [ clicking around some of these below links, one can search within those
    and find more links, Ozark videos, books in local libraries, where to find on-topic books
    {by inserting your zip code}, logging the Ozarks, Louis Houck
    a lot more ].

    Louis Houck:

    He is often called the "Father of Southeast Missouri" because he brought the railroad to the region.
    **** Below are more links about Louis Houck:


    http://www.worldcat.org/identities/nc-t j moss tie company/ .
    In the late 1800s, the Ozarks were home to the largest sawmill
    in the nation. This story shows the people who worked there,
    how they lived, and what they left behind.
    [Produced by Missouri Dept. of Conservation, 1991].

    https://www.worldcat.org/title/scen...-project/oclc/882397141&referer=brief_results .
    Scenes from 1920's film : Shannon County Film Digitization Project.
    Author: Robert Moore; Shannon County Film Digitization Project.
    Publisher: [Springfield, Mo.] : [Missouri State University], [2007]
    Edition/Format: [​IMG] eVideo : Clipart/images/graphics :
    State or province government publication : English
    Scenes excerpted from Stamp of character, a film commissioned in the 1920s
    by the T.J. Moss Tie Company, St. Louis, Mo. Shows the Missouri forests
    and rivers as they appeared nearly 100 years ago. The original silent film was
    shown in movie theaters as an advertisement for the company. Moss Tie began
    operation in 1879, and was one of the nation's largest railroad tie companies.
    This segment shows the manual techniques of felling trees and splitting logs
    used in those days, and the use of mules and the river to move the logs and ties.

    Find a copy in the library

    other links; Subjects


    In the late 1800s, the Ozarks were home to the largest sawmill in the nation.
    This story shows the people who worked there, how they lived, and what they
    left behind. Produced by Missouri Dept. of Conservation (1991).
    **** More link to about Louis Houck:


    Missouri Railroad Pioneer: The Life of Louis Houck Video Transcript


    Missouri Railroad Pioneer: The Life of Louis Houck
    Houck is also considered the "Father of Southeast ...


    A Missouri Railroad Pioneer: The Life of Louis Houck (Volume 1 ...
    Louis Houck (1840-1925)


    Louis Houck: Missouri Historian and Entrepreneur. By William T ...
    William T. Doherty,. Jr. University of Missouri Studies, Volume XXXIII.
    (Columbia : Uni-.thelibrary.org/blogs/article.cfm?aid=944

    Louis Houck - Springfield-Greene County Library
    Feb 13, 2011 ... A Missouri railroad pioneer; the life of Louis Houck
    by Joel P. Rhodes describes Louis Houck as "a self-taught
    Cape Girardeau railroader .


    Louis Houck Books | List of books by author Louis Houck - Thriftbooks
    Looking for books by Louis Houck? See all books authored by Louis Houck,
    including Memorial Sketches of Pioneers and Early Residents of Southeast Missouri.

    Episode 46: Louis Houck and "the Histories" – Joel P. Rhodes ...
    A Missouri Railroad Pioneer, and offers a historiographical
    perspective on Louis Houck's writings on...

    Southeast Faculty Member Pens Book on Life of Louis Houck
    Jan 1, 1990 ... Joel Rhodes is the author of a book,
    A Missouri Railroad Pioneer:
    The Life of Louis Houck. CAPE GIRARDEAU, Mo.,
    May 6, 2008 — A Southeast ...


    Louis Houck Archives - Cape Girardeau History and Photos
    It's been said that he was a conductor murdered by a vengeful engineer
    who asked him to inspect underneath the train and then started it up.
    One source even ...
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  5. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

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  6. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    He’s my hero. I’ve had to drive from Cape Girardeau to Puxico every day this week to cover for a therapist who’s on vacation and I see the old roadbed and remaining ancient bridge timber’s all along the way. You’ve got to know where to look but I know where to look. It’s like seeing a ghost. I love it.
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  7. Try some of the above links
    **** More links to about Louis Houck in the my post in this discussion.

    It looks like there is a lot yet to be found out about these early railroads that led to SLSF.

    I am sure there are ways to find these ghost railbeds. Maybe find some
    treasures like spikes, switch mechanisms, wheels, part of signals, iron tools, handle bars, etc.
    :sneaky: :D :rolleyes:
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  8. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    18FDDB4A-1C0E-420D-9173-D5564A7344CD.jpeg Speaking of which, here’s a piece of Castor River trestle hardware and a fish plate from the old Zalma Branch. I love exploring the old roadbed. The line was abandoned and pulled up by 1934 or 35. I found the fish plate in the old Lauderdale Cut about 1 mile west of Greenbrier and the Castor River bridge was about 2 or so miles east of Zalma. Easiest reached by canoe.
  9. palallin

    palallin Member

    A real life NBW detail :)
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