Cape Girardeau, MO, St. Louis Subdivision, MP 131.3

Discussion in 'St Louis Subdivision' started by chris, Mar 10, 2002.

  1. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    I bet she's on her way past Brownwood.

    It is close in appearance to my little 4-4-0 SLSF 151. I know it is not but I can pretend.

    That awesome depot at Cape Girardeau is on my scratch building "bucket list". There are not very many images of it. All I have seen were taken from this same side.

    I have never seen any plans for it.
     
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  2. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Rail-Served Industries Circa 1964 - Cape Girardeau, MO

    Thanks to Mark Hall, a fellow model railroader here in Kansas City, who provided the bulk information from the Missouri Pacific (MP) Railroad.

    I created a summarized listing of the industries, goods received, goods shipped and serving railroad(s) in Cape Girardeau that were served by rail in 1964.
     

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  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Coca Cola sign on Vandeven's Mercantile - Cape Girardeau, MO

    For fans of Cape Girardeau, especially anyone who lived or lives there, or fans of Coca Cola, from the archives of Ken McElreath (kenmc), comes a picture of the Coca Cola sign that was painted on the west wall of Vandeven's Mercantile Company at the corner of Broadway and Pacific.

    If anyone wants a high resolution tiff file of it for decal production, let me know via PM.

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  4. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Ah, memory lane.

    During my college days I lived just a few blocks north of there.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
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  5. gstout

    gstout Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Just moved to Cape from Chicago last week Monday.

    I saw this sign over the weekend when I was giving the grand tour to some early house guests.

    It would make a great addition to any model.

    GS
     
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  6. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Yet another Coca Cola sign from the Cape Girardeau area.

    This one has been on the north side of a building, currently the Port Cape Girardeau Restaurant, since the late 1800s.

    Note the two different prices, 3 cents Plain or 5 cents (with coca).

    I also have this one ready for decal work.

    The photographs are mine.

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  7. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thank you very much for these, Keith.

    I have some photograph prints of this sign, circa 1992.

    I used a razor blade to cut it out, then sanded it down thin and put it on a building.

    However, my angle was such that the sign looks very trapezoidal.

    Your photograph is a much better job.

    Thanks for sharing.
     
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  8. Track chart for Cape Girardeau, the Shops area.

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  9. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Brent,

    What is the possibility of getting a clearer, higher resolution scan of that track chart?
     
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  10. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Very neat.

    I think this is the first time I have seen a track chart with Gulf Junction still intact.

    Thanks very much for sharing.

    Best Regards,
     
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  11. Keith,

    I have the entire River Division track chart from around 1923.

    It shows all of branches as well.

    I need to make some good high resolution scans and prints.

    Brent
     
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  12. Here are a couple more showing Cape, Gulf Junction, and Chaffee.

    Brent

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  13. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Another first.

    I think this is the only chart for Chaffee I have seen that shows the full complement of freight house, team tracks and the tracks to the east of the freight house, shown as the scale track in this chart.

    I had never realized that there were tracks in the latter area until I saw an old photograph taken from the hill to the east.

    Tim,

    I think it may have been a photograph in your collection.

    Thanks very much for posting!

    Best Regards,
     
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  14. kenmc

    kenmc KenMc Frisco.org Supporter

    I do not know whether the track chart is wrong, or perhaps the west side yard tracks and switches were relaid and relocated in later years.

    When I visited Chaffee often in the 1960-1990 time frame, the yard ladder was reversed from that shown on the diagram. In other words, the ladder switches were all lined up diverging from the lead track that was parallel to the main line. I was fascinated by that arrangement and incorporated it into one of my layouts very successfully.

    The prototype advantage from an operational standpoint was that the switchman never needed to cross a track, and he was always in line-of-sight view from the engine cab.

    The model advantages are that all of the switch throws are along the front of the yard for easy access, and the tracking reliability of long cuts of cars is better because there are fewer s-turns at the turnouts.

    Ken McElreath
     
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  15. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Good catch, Ken.

    I think you are right.

    Your recollection jives with an early Chaffee Real Estate Company map I have, and with an aerial photo from Don Wirth. Please see the following links.

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index.php?threads/chaffee-mo-yard-early-20th-century-map.1046/

    http://www.frisco.org/shipit/index....o-yard-early-20th-century-map.1046/#post-5901

    I wonder if they just got it wrong on the track chart?

    Thanks for explaining the prototype advances of the ladder switches. I had always wondered why they were set up as they were in Chaffee.

    Best Regards,
     
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  16. Here is the actual Frisco blueprint from August 26, 1955.

    Brent

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  17. Marisi

    Marisi Member

    I have a source that says J. W. Gerhardt built the Marquette Cement Plant, it was called Eagle Portland Cement back then, and a railroad trestle for the loading of cars 40 feet in the air.

    I wonder if he built that nice old Marquette office building and laboratory too?

    I do not have a year for this, bit it shows in photograph 6, middle of the second row.

    It must have been between 1910 and 1923.
     
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  18. Marisi

    Marisi Member

    My grandfather, J. W. Gerhardt, built that depot in the background.

    Great picture!
     
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  19. Jim James

    Jim James Staff Member Staff Member

    Was he the same man who built the Black Forest Village?

    Maybe that was Gephardt.
     
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  20. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Jim,

    J. W.'s son, Burton J. Gerhardt built the Black Forest Village.
     
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