Cape Girardeau, MO, St. Louis Subdivision, MP 131.3

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  1. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Old U.S. 61 Highway Overpass - Cape Girardeau, MO

    According to my track chart, it is precisely Bridge 135.8.
     
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  2. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith,

    Thanks for clarifying on the old U.S. 61 Highway overpass location!

    That also helps to clarify what Rock Creek likely was on the old timetable.

    Looks like there is a trestle or bridge that the railroad crosses just a smidgen east of the overpass.

    Best Regards,
     
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  3. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    A friend of mine, Ken Steinhoff, formerly from Cape Girardeau, is a retired photo-journalist.

    He is running a blog about Cape Girardeau in the 1960sand has featured a number of things besides aerial photograph of interest to Frisco and railroad people. Please see the following link.

    www.capecentralhigh.com

    In two different postings he talked about the two steam switch engines that used to serve the cement plant in Cape. Take a look at them and read about them here.

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/cape-girardeau-parks-are-well-trained/

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/parks/hooligans-deface-train/

    He documented the Frisco bridge across Cape La Croix Creek.

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/1929-railroad-bridge/

    He posted a video of kids catching the train in Cape for a ride to Chaffee, MO.

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/train-trip-to-chaffee/
     
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  4. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Folks,

    There is an interesting audio slide show on the Southeast Missourian newspaper site today. It is a 1983 interview with longtime photographer G. D. Fronabarger talking about flood coverages.

    http://www.semissourian.com/blogs/flynch/entry/40445/

    There are several photographs of interest to modelers. These include:

    a) a boiler-equipped EMD GP7 SLSF 559 with a southbound passenger haul in front of the depot,
    b) a view looking north up the line toward the depot. I am guessing around the current depot at the foot of William St. Keith or others, perhaps you can clarify.
    c) aerial view of Marquette Cement, Hely Crushed Stone and the tank farm near the old Leming Lumber Mill,
    d) Central Packing
    e) several downtown storefronts and some of the long-vanished building signs that used to reside below the still-in-existence Coca-Cola sign at Water and Themis Streets.

    Enjoy!

    Best
     
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  5. trains1504

    trains1504 Member

    Mr. McElreath,

    Have always been interested in the Frisco and am starting a preliminary plan for a model railroad that has some of the industries that you have either modeled or have mentioned.

    I have become very interested in the River Division since my first job was across the river in Anna, Illinois and now that my son is in school at Southeast Missouri State. I had a question for you.

    Did you have access to track plans for your layout or did you do a lot of it from memory and photographs?

    The reason is that even though my son is down there, I am not able to get down that way as often as I would like.

    I am looking for a little advice on which route to take as far as track planning and industries to choose to model.

    Because you have modeled some of the industries that I am interested in I thought you might be a good resource.

    Thanks for the great photos of your layout and I am hoping that you can provide a little information to get me started.

    Thank you,

    Mark Haun
    trains1504
     
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  6. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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  7. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    Love it!

    Note: The picture here was taken during the 1951 flood.

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  8. timothy_cannon

    timothy_cannon Member Frisco.org Supporter

    By the way, the GE 45-ton switch engine is gone from Lone Star Cement or whatever it is called these days.

    The 45ton locomotive might have gone to Ste. Genevieve, MO.

    They now have what appears to be 2 SW's of some sort.

    I have not had a chance to get a good look.
     
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  9. trains1504

    trains1504 Member

    Thanks so much for the track chart and industry guide.

    That is perfect.
     
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  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Thanks to Tim Cannon for the copy of the Specification Order Sheet that Marquette Cement filled out when ordering the original GE 45-ton switch engine #4.

    The sheet confirms to me that the engine was definitely a 45ton verses a 44ton. Builders number was #32388, with two Cummins HBI-600 diesels.

    When Marquette decided to dispose of the Davenport and Porter steam switch engines they had, they leased a Frisco GE 44-ton switcher, SLSF 4, for a brief period of time before finally purchasing their own GE-45 ton switcher. *

    I have a copy of the original order specifications that Marquette submitted to General Electric for the purchase. It was originally painted in a scheme to nearly match the black and yellow Frisco 44-ton unit.

    When the plant was purchased by Lone Star Cement, it was repainted in a blue and white scheme with red trim and yellow handrails. That 45-tonner survived on plant property at least to July 17, 2011, when I took pictures of the switcher that supplanted it, an EMD SW1200, WPIX 330.

    On that date, the 45-ton unit was still sitting on the plant property, but it looked like it was no longer in service.

    Attached are copies of the documents and pictures I took of the GE 45-ton unit in 8/2009 and the EMD SW1200 in 7/2011.

    * From the book by Louis Marre, Frisco Diesel Power, page 32.

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  11. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    The area where the Roberts, Johnson and Rand Shoe, later International Shoe Shoe, factory and Misssouri Utilities power plant were located north of downtown Cape Girardeau has radically changed recently.

    Ken Steinhoff documents the change with aerial photographs in his blog. Please see the following links.

    www.capecentralhigh.com

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/cape-downtown/isle-casino-cape-girardeau-clearing-starts/

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/cape-downtown/shoe-factory-to-cape-casino/

    You can see more old photographs at the Southeast Missourian newspaper website using their search of old copies. Please see these links.

    http://www.semissourian.com/story/1688267.html

    http://www.semissourian.com/gallery/6570
     
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  12. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

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  13. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    Keith,

    I think you mean 300 pounds of explosives.
     
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  14. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    No, I did not err.

    They used 300 TONS of explosives.

    The Southeast Missourian newspaper article at the hyperlink in my post confirms my memory of the event.
     
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  15. wmrx

    wmrx MP Trainmaster

    That had to be one heck of an explosion.
     
  16. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    It really was not that loud.

    As you can see I was relatively close. I have heard louder reports from the aerial barrage explosions on the Fourth of July.

    Most of the energy was confined below ground. I think the sound from the mass of rock moved was greater than that of the explosives detonating.

    It was an impressive display of raw power.
     
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  17. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith,

    Somehow I missed these pictures while we were on vacation.

    I remember adults in Chaffee saying that they felt the blast when it happened, although maybe they were in Cape Girardeau, MO or Illmo-Scott City, IL at the time.

    I also recall KFVS TV-12 using video footage of this as part of a video montage that opened their newscasts for quite sometime afterward.

    Thanks very much for posting!

    Best Regards,
     
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  18. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Since posting the photographs, I found out through a source that the surface area on top of the blast zone was about six acres and about 250 feet deep.
     
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  19. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Recently, another structure that housed a business served by the Frisco was razed on North Main Street as part of the new casino construction.

    The building was the former Morrison Ice and Fuel Company, later the Riverside Fuel Company. It was still standing in April but was gone as of Tuesday 8/16/2011. It was just south of the International Shoe Factory, formerly Roberts, Johnson, and Rand Shoe, and appeared on Sanborn Maps beginning in 1908.

    The founder, F. M. Morrison, also had a sand company at the location. I have no pictures of the building, but my friend, Ken Steinhoff, has a feature post in his blog, including aerials and ground level photographs of the building. Please see the following link.

    www.capecentralhigh.com

    Here is a link to the two articles about the area.

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape...le-casino-cape-girardeau-construction-update/

    http://www.capecentralhigh.com/cape-photos/cape-downtown/morrison-ice-and-fuel-falls-to-casino/

    Cape Girardeau 1915 #16.jpg
     

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  20. Rick McClellan

    Rick McClellan 2009 Engineer of the Year

    "Shops" Area of Cape Girardeau

    Chris,

    This concrete ramp bears a strong resemblance to the concrete ramps at Springfield North Yard.
     
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