Baggage Cars

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  1. chris

    chris Guest

    #436 in "Shadowline" paint

    #436 in "Shadowline" paint. W. Springfield Car Shops, February 1949. Published in Frisco Museum's "All Aboard" magazine; posted with permission.
     

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  2. patrick

    patrick Guest

    #430.RRT

    Taken at the Museum of Transportation. I lost my notes on what number the car is. (This should be #430.RRT)
     

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  3. chris

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    Rebuilt Baggage Car #355

    Rebuilt Baggage Car #355. April 13, 1951, West Springfield Shops. Frisco photo; Published in the Frisco Museum's "All Aboard" magazine; posted with permission (Thanks to Tim Cannon for helping with an inverted image, and to Paul Bender for advice as well--CA)
     

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  4. roger

    roger Guest

    Unknown Baggage

    ???? Springfield, MO. 10/03. I found this one at the Ribbon Rail Facility, I haven't a clue as to the number.
     

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  5. chris

    chris Guest

    Drawing of 300-series baggage car with messenger facilities (371, 372, 373, 374, 375,

    Drawing of 300-series baggage car with messenger facilities (371, 372, 373, 374, 375, 376, 380, 378). Built AC&F Co., 11-1912.
     

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  6. dan

    dan Guest

    Does anyone know if the Baggage car is still at the ribbon rail facility? It doesn't look like any of the previously documented survivors.

    Dan Hall
    Fort Smith
     
  7. jarnett

    jarnett Member

    Were the heavyweight passengers cars in 'Shadowline' paint, ever painted in the blue and white scheme?

    Thanks

    Jim
     
  8. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    I'm a bit late on this one...

    The only reference I have on this topic is the Aug.-Sept. 1991 All Aboard article that talks of how 14 heavyweight cars were painted "...in a red and gray Camouflage Shadowline livery."

    The end of the article does seem to imply that some, if not all, of the "shadowline" cars were repainted from blue/white heavyweights. Perhaps other Frisco Folk can clarify this?
     
  9. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Baggage Cars and Safety Chains

    Folks:
    Found an interesting article from the August 1916 The Frisco Man:

    The management recently arranged, through the mechanical department, to have Safety Chains put in baggage cars across the side doors so baggagemen will be better protected during the summer months when baggage car doors are open while trains are in motion.

    The baggageman works a good deal near the open door while transferring his baggage and doing other work, and by placing a chain across the door, he has an opportunity to catch hold of same or fall against it should he lose his balance when the train rounds a sharp curve, strikes a bad place in track, or makes some unusual movement that is unexpected.

    Mr. Sam G. Owen, train baggageman at Memphis running on trains 103-1-4-105 and 106 between Memphis and Birmingham, made the recommendation that safety chains be applied to baggage car doors and because of the practicability of the recommendation as a precaution against accident, it was quickly adopted by the management.


    I'll have to go back and check prototype photos. I have an article that Ken McElreath did a few years back in the FMIG newsletter - I recall him modeling some passenger cars with open doors - if safety chains were still present in the 1940s, I think it would be a nice added touch to a scale baggage car.
     
  10. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    A few of the red/silver/shadow striped cars had been painted in the blue/gray: 371 (baggage car), 1401, 1402 (lounge cars) and "Kansas City" (diner lounge car). This info was from the Frisco Museum "All Aboard" mentioned in this thread.

    Tom
     
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  11. TAG1014

    TAG1014 Frisco.org Supporter Frisco.org Supporter

    Re: Baggage Car (at ribbon rail shop)

    I'm kinda new here and I don't understand everything about navigating this chat group (e.g. what is and what's not closed; replying to older posts etc.), but in reference to the baggage car photographed at the ribbon rail shop below: I believe that is former baggage car #441 which was rebuilt from ex-RPO-baggage car #207 by the Frisco 12-53.

    Tom
     

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